Ntia?

Southtown800 · #1 (**permalink**) 04-16-2006, 08:47 PM

The National Telecommunications and Information Administration, or NTIA, is responsible for regulating federal radio use in the United States. NTIA is a part of the Department of Commerce.

NTIA license data is not available to the public

Why is the info not availbal?...i dont understand?

redhelmet13 · #2 (**permalink**) 04-16-2006, 10:14 PM

National securiity concerns resulting from the 9-11 attacks, expect even more info going dark if any more problems happen.

Southtown800 · #3 (**permalink**) 04-16-2006, 10:29 PM

what kinda info would they pass along anyway?...not specific, but examples?

jim202 · #4 (**permalink**) 04-17-2006, 06:57 AM

They won't provide any info at all. That means names, users, locations, frequencies,
TX power, number of units, etc. What part of no don't you understand.

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Originally Posted by Southtown800

what kinda info would they pass along anyway?...not specific, but examples?

mciupa · #5 (**permalink**) 04-17-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Southtown800

The National Telecommunications and Information Administration, or NTIA, is responsible for regulating federal radio use in the United States. NTIA is a part of the Department of Commerce.
NTIA license data is not available to the public ,why is the info not available ?...?

It's pretty much summed up here:
D. Frequency Security

Public release of radio frequencies assigned and maintained for tactical and operational law enforcement activities could cause serious harm to the Department’s law enforcement operations. The frequency information is specifically exempted from release under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). The exemption is covered under 5 USC 552 as amended by Public Law 104-231, 110 Stat. 3047-3054

Halfpint · #6 (**permalink**) 04-22-2006, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jim202

They won't provide any info at all. That means names, users, locations, frequencies, TX power, number of units, etc. What part of no don't you understand.

Nice attitude, dude. Exactly what one expects from an archetypal `ex-spurt' or `burro-crat'. Such a wonderful display of diplomacy and tact. You could have easily just answered with all *but* that last sentence and his question would have been answered completely and *nicely*.

DaveNF2G · #7 (**permalink**) 04-22-2006, 10:27 AM

The classification of NTIA/IRAC frequencies predates "9/11" by many years. President Reagan classified all of that information by Executive Order way back in 1982.

Southtown800 · #8 (**permalink**) 04-22-2006, 06:33 PM

what kinda radio transmission though?...i am just curious what could they say over the air?...or better yet, who do they communicate with?....i am not looking for freqs, i just want to know who they talk to over what kinda radio net that it needs to be classified?

nd5y · #9 (**permalink**) 04-22-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Southtown800

what kinda radio transmission though?...i am just curious what could they say over the air?...or better yet, who do they communicate with?....i am not looking for freqs, i just want to know who they talk to over what kinda radio net that it needs to be classified?

The NTIA & IRAC frequencies are used by all the US federal government agencies for all kinds of uses. Its all the stuff in the 138-144, 148-150.75, 162-174, 225-420 MHz and other bands that everybody already knows about. Prior to 1982 the information was freely available. People obtained the government master file of frequency allocations and callsigns and published it in books. Now they can't do it.

Southtown800 · #10 (**permalink**) 04-22-2006, 08:25 PM

they are all encrypted anyway, so why does it matter if you have them or not, i know a million and 1 places on the net where you can get FBI, CIA, and this and that, but you would never hear anything because their encryption notes are crazy, i dont see it possible that you can break a 3 million key encryption,

DaveNF2G · #11 (**permalink**) 04-22-2006, 11:50 PM

You give up too easily (or listen to people who make too many assumptions, maybe). There are a tremendous amount of unencrypted transmissions in those bands.

gewecke · #12 (**permalink**) 04-25-2006, 01:06 PM

Yes, it's true. Most of this stuff is encrypted...BUT! Anybody who knows anything about
motorola "securenet" the key codes don't always function as they should in all radios
in a system.
This means that while a portable or mobile may be using his securenet feature,more
often than not, the other side of this traffic could be in the "clear"!!
Many times the operator doesn't hear or ignores the little beep on his saber3.
Guess what that means for you?! Yup!