Part 1 and part 2 of David Sarida's scientific look at ufo's and Electro Magnetivity.

[jimyleg]

http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13296

Another advancment in the perception of what is that we don't understand.
To save to your hard drive chose ipod in the download tab, it's a windows media file.

[MacombMonitor]

What about the other link you always reference in your signature:

www.checktheevidence.com

It doesn't appear to be working. What was it?

[jimyleg]

It was a compilation of controversial events like the explosion that occured over in siberia that was more powerful than several of the big boy's dropped on Heroshima. It provides an unbiased representation of what happend and allows you to make a decision. Thats about it. I believe it's down for maintnance.

[rdale]

And it had the missing plane video, but I saved it on my harddrive before the black helicopters could -- wait -- somebo#$ %&*(&!

{DISCONNECT}

[K5MAR]

Ummm, time to exhale!
Or did you order the special mushroom pizza?

Mark S.

[jimyleg]

http://www.unmuseum.org/siberia.htm

When you stop looking at amazing events, anomolies if you will, with a skeptics mind you close off your ability to make judgment that is purely your own. Though it's not definitive what occured there, atleast one man died and I guess that makes it worth looking into. Take a look at the world and ask questions...

[rdale]

I looked at it, and any questions I have can be answered with science and/or God. Anti-matter aliens ships don't enter the equation.

[jimyleg]

Ships and anti-matter are science my friend.

[Al42]

Originally Posted by jimyleg

Ships and anti-matter are science my friend.

Alien space ships aren't science, they're fantasy. Science is "here's something, let's see if we can explain it with known reality". Fantasy is "let's see if we can prove that the alien space ships we already know exist do". They're not the same. The closest alien space ships come to science is that they aren't it.

Neither is thinking that Tunguska was caused by aliens. People used to insist that those same aliens were the ones responsible for crop circles. Well, we all know how that turned out, don't we?

[jimyleg]

As I said "Though it's not definitive what occured there"... You don't believe space ships or energys from some where else have come here!? LOL. I know about this time alot of you are saying what a nut... I know they exist. ALL through out history there are clear depictions of ufo's. Alexander the great and his flying shields, drawings of ufo's on cave walls ETC. I have a good friend who saw clear as day a cylinder craft turn red and dissapear. I'v known him for years and has never lied abuot any thing. More outlining is his charicter. The man is a firm believer in god. Yet he tells me this is what he saw on his farm. My father and mother saw a zig zagging white light in the sky over the arcola bridge in minnesota in 1968 moving at incradible speed. The information come to me in my life is far too truthful to be a lie. Sorry if you refuse to believe. I guess you haven't experienced the things others have. It's not your fault, it just has not happend to you. Mabe someday you'l be scanning and look out your window and see a disc or some weird thing that blows your brain socket out. Untill then. You have your opinion.

Ps, Boyd Bushman is openly talking about Lockheed martin building an anti gravity ship(Boyd Bushman is one of the senior most scientists for lockheed). He said this in an interview, "when were finished it will fly". Place 2 magnets on the grownd, like 2 north's. Drop 2 weights on them, one on each magnet. They will not hit the grownd at the same time. Is this anti gravity? I'd ask the folks at the haarp facility. Better yet ask John Hutchinson who invented anti gravity in 1979 by beaming high energy waves at objects. But don't believe me. !j!

[rdale]

I didn't say anti-matter was not science. I said anti-matter alien ships, as you claim caused Tunguska, are not science.

[jimyleg]

LOL at what point did i say that ? (looking with hand firmly saluting moniter). I didn't say it but the process of investigating that certainly would be science.. I guess. I simply linked a page that described what happend and I never commented further than that. I would have come out and said it, not tip toe through the tulips. I gave a possibility by showing all known perceptions of what happend. Thats called non biasd information, you probobly thought that becouse I mentiond it before hand, however.. just an example.

[dimab]

Originally Posted by rdale

I looked at it, and any questions I have can be answered with science and/or God. Anti-matter aliens ships don't enter the equation.

you're willing to explain something with god, but can't believe in aliens. can you show some proof of either one?

[jimyleg]

Originally Posted by dimab

you're willing to explain something with god, but can't believe in aliens. can you show some proof of either one?

lol, More surprisingly I would find it hard myself to accept an object moving at the speeds while clearly making Right angle turns described as a natural phenomenon. Never once has one of these phenomenon struck a satelite! Naming the disc's as anomolies has many flaws as well. The camera has captured them in all light conditions and over many places over the earth and space with no change in shape, size, or charicter.

The gravity clock is actually showing how gravity works.. Which is pretty astounding, and no it's not a fake diagram or idea.
To me, A god is one that knows all things. I believe in a higher being.

[elk2370bruce]

Remember, half of the internet is populated with people who wear aluminum foil on their head to prevent alien mind control. Personally (like many of us) I just keep my head up my own ass. (It's quieter that way) Reputable sources that are validated by dispassionate third parties (No, not Republican or Democrat parties)? Horrors... All that reading and thinking??? Next, creative thought will be required! Fying saucers or God (or just God flying a saucer) are Useless arguments that have started wars for a millenia. Booze, sex, (not necessarily in that order) and a refrigerator carton to sleep in behind the K Mart -=- the True Meaning of Life.

In Sincerest Sarcasm

[Al42]

Originally Posted by jimyleg

LOL at what point did i say that ? (looking with hand firmly saluting moniter). I didn't say it but the process of investigating that certainly would be science.. I guess.

Investigating what? A meteor landed. You have actual evidence (that's what scientific investigation is based on - actual evidence) that it was anything else?

Since you have no idea how "science" is done, let me fill you in. Science investigates observations. If we observe an alien ship, we investigate it. If we observe a meteor event, we investigate that.

What we don't do is observe A and use that as an excuse to investigatge B - that's fantasy, not science. "There was an explosion of some kind, so let's see if it was caused by an alien space ship" isn't science - science is "It looks as if something exploded - let's see if we can determine what it was". Which was done. What was determined is that it was a meteor. (Not evidence of any alien space ship was found.)

I simply linked a page that described what happend

What happened was a meteor event. There's nothing further to "investigate" - we know what those are.

I gave a possibility by showing all known perceptions of what happend.

All known facts of what happened are that a meteor landed. The rest aren't "perceptions" - no one perceived any space ships.

Thats called non biasd information

What "information"? "I think it was a flying saucer" isn't information, it's wishful thinking. It's as far from hard science as religion is.

[Al42]

Originally Posted by dimab

you're willing to explain something with god, but can't believe in aliens. can you show some proof of either one?

Where have you been? Over 100,000 aliens marched recently.

(Oh, those kinds of aliens. )

[jimyleg]

I reitterate; I did not say a space ship exploded there, nore do I believe that one did.... I'm giving an example of the page that macomb asked about. No evidence of a meteor or solid fact's are given in concrete form. The only real determining evidence is the fact that meteors that size hit the earth once a millenia. Accept for, as the article reads, recent resin observations point to a meteor. All other known information points to a probobility of things, which depends how you look at it(you try to argue a space ship did not land/explode there, I don't know if one did or not lol). Another interesting fact of the matter is the lack of substance, "material" evidence is lacking. I didn't say a meteor landed lol, nor did I say a space ship did. I said "it" had happend. I wasn't secretly hinting at any thing, other than these type of events are what the page is about. I lay down on the track's in what is your pervervial railroad of determination to make me go crazy in explaining what I said to Macomb.

[rdale]

Hit the "edit" button and try to make that post clear...

[Al42]

Originally Posted by jimyleg

which depends how you look at it(you try to argue a space ship did not land/explode there

There's no evidence that a space ship, or a giant hippopotamus, landed there. There is evidence that a meteor landed there.

Another interesting fact of the matter is the lack of substance, "material" evidence is lacking.

Which is exactly what we'd expect. Not what we'd expect from an anti-matter "explosion".

what the page is about.

Let's look at pages like that - pages (and individuals) that claim that Tunguska is the result of an alien anti-matter ship:

How did the ship get through trillions of miles of normal-matter universe, just to blow up once it got here? There's normal matter all over "empty" space, which would have blown the entire mass of the ship away long before it got here from Pluto's orbit, let alone from another stellar system. It may look good on paper (and, then, only if you don't know much about physics), but it just doesn't work in reality.

The "alien space ship theorists" don't know enough to realize how ridiculous their "theories" are.