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I am making a separate thread for this system as most of the discussion was in the Corpus Christi thread, but this is a much larger widespread system.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=8665

From my travels this week, I have found that site 13 is on the tall tower just inside the Faith Ranch southwest of Carrizo Springs. It is using two of it's licensed frequencies and not 454 MHz at this time. No voice traffic on it yet.

I can also say with certainty that site 4 is in Atascosa County. It is able to be heard from Lytle to Cotulla on I-35 South, and it comes in strong on SH 16 through Jourdanton. There are two towers for S&P in the area, Pleasanton and Charlotte. I am leaning to it being Charlotte due to the signal from I-35. I will have to actually pass through Charlotte some time and confirm. It is hard to figure it out when it is using only 454 MHz part 22 channels for control with little to no voice traffic.

I also confirmed site 8 is Carrizo Springs as the signal was strong at HEB with no antenna on the PSR500.

Please add to this as you see fit! There are many licensed sites spread throughout south, southeast and central Texas for S&P Communications, which may show up as BNS Enterprises or Nathan Sherman in the FCC search. Any help is appreciated.
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I am pretty much confined to the Cotulla area for the time being so I am not able to get much new information. However some others may be able to listen to the UHF band and pick up some valuable info for this system to continue to be built out. I think I have the actual bandplan to this thing figured out:

1: 451.01250 CH 000 - 453.01875 CH 321 Steps 6.25 kHz
2: 460.65625 CH 322 - 464.41875 CH 924 Steps 6.25 kHz
3: 454.00000 CH 925 - 454.68750 CH 980 Steps 12.5 kHz

4: 464.42500 CH 981 - 464.98750 CH 1026 Steps 12.5 kHz OR
4: 464.42500 CH 981 - 464.99375 CH 1072 Steps 6.25 kHz

I am very positive on 1, 2 and 3, and we know CH 981 in section 4 is correct from a listener on another thread in Corpus Christi as a control channel in George West, Site 3. I am not certain of whether section 4 steps up at 12.5 or 6.25, although the FCC hasn't licensed very much above 464.6 into the 6.25 splits yet. We will have to see a channel number reported in the 1000's to be sure.

All that said, there are some missing sites that need to be found and filled in. Currently, DSD reports the following active control channels:

15: 451.10625 (Site 1 San Antonio active CC)
216: 452.36250 (Site 7 Cotulla active CC)
294: 452.85000 (Confirmed voice channel at site 8, also licensed in Georgetown and Pleasanton)
319: 453.00625 (Site 5 Pearsall active CC)
548: 462.06875 (Licensed only at site 13, not used as CC from monitoring recently)
551: 462.08750 (Licensed at Point Comfort, Corpus Christi)
573: 462.22500 (Licensed at Rockport)
927: 454.02500 Not heard on air yet
928: 454.03750 (Site 8 Carrizo Springs idle CC/VC, may be on air elsewhere as well)
933: 454.10000 (Site 7 Cotulla idle CC/VC, may be on air elsewhere as well)
949: 454.30000 (Site 8 Carrizo Springs active CC)
981: 464.42500 (Site 3 George West)
999: 464.53750 (nothing licensed if 6.25 kHz) or 464.6500 (licensed at Karnes City if 12.5 kHz)

Another weird note is that I can hear site 4 and decode it on CH 929 (454.050) from my hotel in Cotulla, but DSD does not report site 7 CH 216 (452.3625) as a neighboring channel although the DSD Events window does show site 7 as one of the visible NL's. Same thing goes for site 7, not reporting CH 929 site 4 as an active CC even though it shows as a NL.

I don't think the issue is with DSD, as it only reports what it decodes. I think the system is not reporting things correctly as they are on the air. When I found site 13 on the Faith Ranch, it was using two frequencies as CC's that were not showing up as neighbors to any other site, but was showing all the normal visible NLs (1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9).

Bottom line, we just need to monitor the I-37 and SH 35 corridors a little closer to find where the rest of this system is hiding out at.
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I drove a little ways toward Freer after work today and was able to pick up site 10 there from about 35 miles away with few errors. Freer site 10 reports:

028 - 451.18750 (licensed for NXDN at Charlotte and Carrizo Springs. Have not seen in use in Carrizo Springs yet with 3 other channels identified.)
160 - 452.01250 (Site 10 Freer active CC today)
477 - 461.62500 (Site 9 Corpus Christi confirmed CC)
548 - 462.06875 (again, only licensed at site 13 Faith Ranch but not heard yet)
999 - ??? depending on band plan.

Freer also reports 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9 as neighbors with a RAN of 10 on DSD+, but Freer site 10 has not shown up as a neighbor yet to any of the sites west or north of it. More oddities.....
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So, if anybody is interested in testing out their NXDN upgraded 436/536, please check out the S&P 303 Wiki page I started for site research. Feel free to use it and update it there, or preferably, submit your findings to the database.

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Hello Paul, we can't let you have all the fun in this thread sandbox by yourself so I'm jumping in
Let me start by asking how these 3 talkgroups below were ID'd - was it by alias and or subject matter ?
I'd say all 3 and maybe even 1902? will turn out to be the same company - the key is in the truck #'s !!!

1901 D Concrete Corpus Concrete Delivery - Corpus Christi Business
1903 D Concrete Alice Concrete Delivery - Alice Business
1904 D Concrete Beeville Concrete Delivery - Beeville Business

If it was by monitoring actual comms then make some basic notes that will lead you to the company:
Example Notepad or Wordpad Template to organize your notes:
TG 1904: UnID Beeville Concrete Delivery Company
Trucks: # 179 (white/white truck pic from Seyer Concrete website), etc
Antennas: You saw both NMO UHF Roof antennas and CB mirror mounts ( monitored on CH 21 etc )
Names: (Dispatcher)=Mario (Drivers)=Martin, John, Juan, David, etc
Jobsites: HEB Gas Station, Walmart, Wherever, new neighborhood street, etc
Locations: Dipatcher might ask driver what's your 20 ? A: driver report he's on Hwy181 & FM351 etc.
Subjects: 10 yards of concrete per truck, heading to washout, returning to the yard / (200 Reagan Rd)
Google search for possible companies to research: worth checking into !
A) SEYER Ready Mix Concrete Supplier
2168 US-181 BUS (361) 358-1200
Explore website: .::SEYER READY MIX::.
notes: Red Truck w/ Black Mixer Drum & White w/White Drum T#179 with green / blue circle logo
B) Alamo Concrete Products Ready Mix Concrete Supplier - doubt it ?
200 W Reagan Rd (361) 358-7288
No Website?: https://www.yellowpages.com/beeville...-products-ltd- 473785292
C) J-III Concrete Services HQ (6 plants in cities to check out) very possible - check google streetview !
1900 E. 28th St. Weslaco, TX 78596
website: South Texas Ready-Mix Concrete | J-III Concrete (956) 969-1578
six locations in Weslaco, Edinburg, Sullivan City, Brownsville, Ben Bolt, and Three Rivers.
notes: Truck # 185 White Kenworth with red/blue co logo on door and mixer drum pic from website
D) Ingram ReadyMix - check out ? (Our SATX Ingram ReadyMix trucks are Black w/ yellow drums etc)
Corpus Christi Holly Plant - 5635 Holly Rd.
Corpus Christi Omaha Plant - 101 N. Omaha
Cotulla Plant - 1140 Pena Rd.
Gonzales Plane - 307 Theo Drive
Kingsville Plant - 2601 E. Corral
Pearsall Plant - Hwy. 81 N.
website: Ingram Readymix - Employee Contacts
website: Ingram Concrete LLC Home
E) Vulcan Materials - check out ? (Our SATX Vulcan ReadyMix trucks have 3 digits ie 580,581,etc)
website: https://www.vulcanmaterials.com/cons...facilities-map
F) Martin Marietta Materials - check out ? (Our SATX MMM ReadyMix trucks have 4 digits ie 8184 etc)
website: https://www.martinmarietta.com/locations

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Hello Paul, we can't let you have all the fun in this thread sandbox by yourself so I'm jumping in
Let me start by asking how these 3 talkgroups below were ID'd - was it by alias and or subject matter ?
I'd say all 3 and maybe even 1902? will turn out to be the same company - the key is in the truck #'s !!!

1901 D Concrete Corpus Concrete Delivery - Corpus Christi Business
1903 D Concrete Alice Concrete Delivery - Alice Business
1904 D Concrete Beeville Concrete Delivery - Beeville Business
I reported these TGs and derived it by Alias and Subject Matter. Log from DSD + below. I added "Concrete" so easier to ID on live display. Since I'm only able to decode one Freq at a time I miss most of the returned calls but listening to recordings I caught for example "298 at washout", "298 at yard", references to yards left in truck, and pouring curbs.

; Concrete Corpus

NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1905, 50, Normal, 81, 2018/04/13 12:06, "Concrete CORPUS 11"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1913, 50, Normal, 1, 2018/04/13 11:15, *"1549"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1914, 50, Normal, 1, 2018/04/13 11:45, *"1517"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1916, 50, Normal, 5, 2018/03/14 13:24, "Concrete 4555"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1919, 50, Normal, 43, 2018/04/13 10:47, "Concrete 2083"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1920, 50, Normal, 15, 2018/04/13 10:36, "Concrete 016"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1921, 50, Normal, 7, 2018/04/12 11:06, "Concrete 1099"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1925, 50, Normal, 31, 2018/04/13 10:29, "Concrete 001"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1926, 50, Normal, 6, 2018/04/13 10:59, "Concrete 002"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1928, 50, Normal, 4, 2018/03/14 13:50, "Concrete 008"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1932, 50, Normal, 6, 2018/03/15 4:47, "Concrete 018"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1933, 50, Normal, 14, 2018/04/13 11:53, "Concrete 046"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1935, 50, Normal, 33, 2018/04/13 12:21, "Concrete 050"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1938, 50, Normal, 3, 2018/03/28 7:36, "Concrete 068"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1940, 50, Normal, 5, 2018/04/13 11:20, "Concrete 4547"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1943, 50, Normal, 8, 2018/03/21 8:45, "Concrete 4566"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1946, 50, Normal, 4, 2018/03/28 7:38, "Concrete 4576"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1949, 50, Normal, 124, 2018/04/13 11:56, "Concrete 3419"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1950, 50, Normal, 1, 2018/04/13 10:30, "Concrete 351"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1951, 50, Normal, 7, 2018/04/13 10:15, "Concrete 379"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1956, 50, Normal, 2, 2018/03/21 9:41, "Concrete 395"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1958, 50, Normal, 9, 2018/04/13 10:49, "Concrete 017"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1963, 50, Normal, 7, 2018/04/13 10:18, "Concrete 296"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1966, 50, Normal, 24, 2018/04/13 11:21, "Concrete 4507"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1968, 50, Normal, 3, 2018/03/15 5:33, "Concrete 4554"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1971, 50, Normal, 3, 2018/04/13 11:51, "Concrete 4565"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1901, 1977, 50, Normal, 2, 2018/03/15 3:32, "Concrete 9475"


; Concrete Alice

NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1909, 50, Normal, 35, 2018/04/13 8:58, "Concrete ALICE 70"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1934, 50, Normal, 13, 2018/04/13 10:27, "Concrete 048"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1942, 50, Normal, 5, 2018/04/13 9:39, "Concrete 158"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1953, 50, Normal, 11, 2018/03/21 8:41, "Concrete 387"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1954, 50, Normal, 6, 2018/04/10 15:13, "Concrete 388"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1957, 50, Normal, 1, 2018/03/21 7:32, "Concrete 391"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1959, 50, Normal, 14, 2018/04/11 10:37, "Concrete 024"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1960, 50, Normal, 10, 2018/03/28 7:46, "Concrete 058"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1962, 50, Normal, 13, 2018/04/11 9:38, "Concrete 4506"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1964, 50, Normal, 4, 2018/03/21 10:19, "Concrete 302"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1965, 50, Normal, 1, 2018/03/28 7:43, "Concrete 390"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1903, 1976, 50, Normal, 3, 2018/04/10 9:42, "Concrete 1579"


; Concrete Beeville

NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1901, 50, Normal, 5, 2018/03/14 13:30, "Concrete NACHO"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1911, 50, Normal, 184, 2018/04/13 10:18, "Concrete BEEVILLE31"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1918, 50, Normal, 38, 2018/04/12 11:02, "Concrete 2086"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1929, 50, Normal, 19, 2018/04/11 8:43, "Concrete 013"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1955, 50, Normal, 30, 2018/04/13 8:08, "Concrete 389"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1967, 50, Normal, 14, 2018/03/21 17:45, "Concrete 4508"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1969, 50, Normal, 30, 2018/03/30 14:11, "Concrete 170"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1970, 50, Normal, 51, 2018/04/13 8:11, "Concrete 298"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1972, 50, Normal, 34, 2018/04/13 8:59, "Concrete 1553"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1973, 50, Normal, 74, 2018/04/13 10:43, "Concrete 4505"
NEXEDGE48, 0, 1904, 1974, 50, Normal, 54, 2018/04/13 6:42, "Concrete 4509"

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If it was by monitoring actual comms then make some basic notes that will lead you to the company:
Example Notepad or Wordpad Template to organize your notes:
TG 1904: UnID Beeville Concrete Delivery Company
Trucks: # 179 (white/white truck pic from Seyer Concrete website), etc
Antennas: You saw both NMO UHF Roof antennas and CB mirror mounts ( monitored on CH 21 etc )
Names: (Dispatcher)=Mario (Drivers)=Martin, John, Juan, David, etc
Jobsites: HEB Gas Station, Walmart, Wherever, new neighborhood street, etc
Locations: Dipatcher might ask driver what's your 20 ? A: driver report he's on Hwy181 & FM351 etc.
Subjects: 10 yards of concrete per truck, heading to washout, returning to the yard / (200 Reagan Rd)
Google search for possible companies to research: worth checking into !
A) SEYER Ready Mix Concrete Supplier
2168 US-181 BUS (361) 358-1200
Explore website: .::SEYER READY MIX::.
notes: Red Truck w/ Black Mixer Drum & White w/White Drum T#179 with green / blue circle logo
B) Alamo Concrete Products Ready Mix Concrete Supplier - doubt it ?
200 W Reagan Rd (361) 358-7288
No Website?: https://www.yellowpages.com/beeville...-products-ltd- 473785292
C) J-III Concrete Services HQ (6 plants in cities to check out) very possible - check google streetview !
1900 E. 28th St. Weslaco, TX 78596
website: South Texas Ready-Mix Concrete | J-III Concrete (956) 969-1578
six locations in Weslaco, Edinburg, Sullivan City, Brownsville, Ben Bolt, and Three Rivers.
notes: Truck # 185 White Kenworth with red/blue co logo on door and mixer drum pic from website
D) Ingram ReadyMix - check out ? (Our SATX Ingram ReadyMix trucks are Black w/ yellow drums etc)
Corpus Christi Holly Plant - 5635 Holly Rd.
Corpus Christi Omaha Plant - 101 N. Omaha
Cotulla Plant - 1140 Pena Rd.
Gonzales Plane - 307 Theo Drive
Kingsville Plant - 2601 E. Corral
Pearsall Plant - Hwy. 81 N.
website: Ingram Readymix - Employee Contacts
website: Ingram Concrete LLC Home
E) Vulcan Materials - check out ? (Our SATX Vulcan ReadyMix trucks have 3 digits ie 580,581,etc)
website: https://www.vulcanmaterials.com/cons...facilities-map
F) Martin Marietta Materials - check out ? (Our SATX MMM ReadyMix trucks have 4 digits ie 8184 etc)
website: https://www.martinmarietta.com/locations

ps ~ OK, hurry up - the concrete is drying - let the most basic Keystone Cop type research begin
I believe that this is Alamo Concrete Products as they have locations in Alice, Beeville, Corpus and several other towns in S Texas. They are the only ones that have yards in both Beeville and Alice.

Other TGs logged are below. I've started logging each transmission as a separate .wav instead of one big one in DSD+ so I can better correlate TG to transmission. I know their are some other school buses active, just trying to figure out from where.

NEXEDGE48, 303, 500, 50, Normal, 22, 2018/04/02 9:46, "SA Van"
NEXEDGE48, 303, 801, 50, Normal, 2402, 2018/04/09 17:48, "3cc4"
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1203, 50, Normal, 51, 2018/04/10 7:38, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1204, 50, Normal, 3, 2018/02/26 9:39, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1205, 50, Normal, 12, 2018/03/22 7:16, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1206, 50, Normal, 27, 2018/04/02 15:28, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1208, 50, Normal, 9, 2018/02/26 14:53, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1211, 50, Normal, 3, 2018/03/22 8:16, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1600, 50, Normal, 106, 2018/04/09 17:02, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1901, 50, Normal, 127, 2018/03/19 7:36, "Concrete Corpus"
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1902, 50, Normal, 21, 2018/03/07 9:34, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1903, 50, Normal, 283, 2018/04/10 7:59, "Concrete Alice"
NEXEDGE48, 303, 1904, 50, Normal, 811, 2018/04/12 8:18, "Concrete Beeville"
NEXEDGE48, 303, 2100, 50, Normal, 271, 2018/04/09 19:24, "Bus"
NEXEDGE48, 303, 2101, 50, Normal, 654, 2018/04/09 16:10, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 2102, 50, Normal, 159, 2018/04/09 19:12, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 2200, 50, Normal, 6, 2018/02/27 22:07, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 2201, 50, Normal, 20, 2018/03/29 21:13, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 2301, 50, Normal, 31, 2018/04/09 18:00, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 2500, 50, Normal, 48, 2018/02/26 19:29, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 3201, 50, Normal, 442, 2018/04/09 17:15, "Karnes City ISD Bus"
NEXEDGE48, 303, 3500, 50, Normal, 3, 2018/03/07 8:26, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 3606, 50, Normal, 1, 2018/03/04 21:53, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 3801, 50, Normal, 625, 2018/04/10 7:58, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 3901, 50, Normal, 273, 2018/03/29 12:38, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 4200, 50, Normal, 6, 2018/03/22 9:02, ""
NEXEDGE48, 303, 4301, 50, Normal, 24, 2018/03/30 10:37, ""
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Hi Bob, so much for google streetview detective research to glean the Alamo Concrete Truck #'s ... ?
Hey good DSD+ logs and I think your well on your way to being the most valuable Keystone cop here !

Alamo Concrete Products Office only - (361) 289-6400
226 S Enterprize Pkwy # 100 - Corpus Christi, TX 78405
Google Street View Date - May 2016
Results: Office Park Bldg only no trucks - Do see a vertical Bant mounted close to flag poles on wall.

Alamo Concrete Products (ReadyMix) - (361) 289-9200
6129 Agnes St Corpus Christi, TX 78406 (White Trucks w/ White Mixer Drums and Red/Blue logo)
Google Street View Date - Mar 2011 (would not be suprised if 7 year old trucks are long replaced ?)
Results: Yuge plant but pics way to far away from street to read any of the roughly 10 truck #'s or so.

Alamo Concrete Products (Ready mix) - (361) 664-8643
1124 Product Ave, Alice, TX 78332 (White Trucks w/ White Mixer Drums and Red/Blue logo)
Google Street View Date - April 2011 (gates locked at photo time place looks dead - where the trucks?
Results: View to far away to see 1 truck# in shop and from another angle 1 way out in the back of yard.

Alamo Concrete Products (ReadyMix) - (361) 358-7288
200 W Reagan Rd, Beeville, TX 78102 (older White MAC Trucks w/ White Mixer Drums and Blue logo)
Google Street View Date - May 2011 (See truck #'s on left front bumper and lower cab doors in photo)
Results: Google Camera Car was on other side of street to get a clear view of the 3 trucks by fence.
Note lower cab door is 3 digit # and unclear might be either 119 or 319 but front bumber looks 4 digit.
Need a drive by as these 7 year old trucks in photo may have been replaced with newer trucks / #'s ?
Bob of all 3 yards this one is closest to the road and thus offers a better chance at seeing truck #'s.
It will probably take a jobsite drive by or some driver give away comm ie "Good Morning Alamo Drivers"
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ralexander5,

Good notes. Would you mind checking some licensed freqs for BNS Enterprises in the area to see if we can find some of the missing sites?

Robstown (WPRU864)

451.00625
451.01250
451.21250
451.26875
451.75000
462.53750
462.73750

Rockport (WPQE815) - License is for analog voice but 462.225 has shown up on DSD as a neighboring CC so it is worth checking

452.21250
452.46250
462.22500
464.76250

Gregory (WQXN595)

463.84375
463.85625
463.95625
464.21875
464.98125

Beeville (WPRF359) - Licensed for analog only but worth checking

451.42500
451.77500
451.96250
452.56250
452.88750

Point Comfort (WQWW249) - Only license of many here that is for NXDN)
451.48750
452.18750
452.71250

Kingsville (WPRK520) - Analog license worth checking
452.35000
452.80000
463.21250
464.93750

There are several more licenses in Point Comfort for analog voice but we can try those first.

I know some of the sites may be a little too far away to here without driving but that is everything in the area . I am planning on a beach day soon with the kiddos so I may get to do a little listening while I am there.
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TG 3901 had a lot of activity today, most of the voice transmissions were school bus related. Monitoring the voice frequencies now to see if I can get an alias. Talk about Jr High and sports and buses but no identifying locations or anything like that.

TG 1904 was active in Cotulla today also, I know that one is a concrete company in Beeville from the above list, but it was catching some travel related traffic briefly.
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Confirmed site 4 as Charlotte. The signal is full strength, no antenna 10 Miles south of Charlotte on the Hindes tower off SH 97. It is using CH 929 454.0500 and CH 949 454.3000. Now what is odd is that site 11 popped up as CH 88 451.5625. Turns out this a frequency licensed to the Charlotte/Hindes site where site 4 is broadcasting from, however site 11 is actually co-located on the Pleasanton tower with 68-9 CH 864 452.8500. Of further note site 11 only broadcasts 4 neighboring CC’s, 62 (Freer), 294 (452.850), 477 (Corpus), 548 (462.06875) and 999 (?)

So now we know Atascosa County is covered by two towers for system 303 and one for system 68 (9)
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Good notes. Would you mind checking some licensed freqs for BNS Enterprises in the area to see if we can find some of the missing sites?
With exception of 452.5625 which is an LTR channel 9 probably out of Beeville I have not seen activity on any of the frequencies listed. I'm still monitoring.

I was monitoring site 303-2 last night (451.075) and when it switched CC it showed up on 454.025 (927) and I found voice channel on 454.650 (979). These don't agree with data base and do not show in FCC database either. Is anyone seeing activity on 464.0875 or 464.4?
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They have several licenses for FCC Part 22 blocks, which allows them to use 454.XXXX frequencies in a general geographical area. But as to the channel numbers, that does jive with what I have seen so far for the band plan. I’ll attach my excel file to the wiki today that has every channel mapped out from 1-981 for quick reference without having to do the math. So is 303-2 coming from Robstown? Is it 451.075 or 451.750? I believe the 464.0875 and 464.4000 were put in as someone recorded them from DSD neighbor activity without being able to hear the frequencies to cross map. We didn’t know about the 454 frequencies running from CH 925-980 until more recently as we made an effort to map the system. I’ll update the database with your findings.
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