155.475

[cookiend15]

Fellow scanners. Today I heard some comms on the Nationwide Police Frequency of 155.475 with a PL Tone of 110.9. I was just wondering if this would have been the State Police. I could not make out what was being said because the comms were coming in quite broken. I have heard that the State Police transmit a PL Tone of 110.9 on 155.370 the State Police Frequency, so can anyone tell me if what I was kind of hearing on 155.475 PL Tone of 110.9 was indeed the New York State Police. And if this is indeed the case where it was the State Police that I was hearing I have another question. Does the State Police alway's use a PL Tone of 110.9 along with 155.370 and 155.475.

Thanks

 

[Spec]

Unless you have a unit call sign you really only would be guessing. Any police agency can use 475 as well as the pl 110.9. Sorry.

 

[mpcarlino]

I have heard both the Niagara County Sheriffs and the State Police on 370 and 475. The NYSP seem to use it the most when other channels are busy, but as Spec said, anyone could be using it. The best you could do is listen for SP-like communications (using typical 1x11 callsigns or using such phrases as "received, [numbers]"). In my experience, they first try 370 if their own freqs are busy, and then fall back to 475.

A 110.9 pl would suggest the state police, but check local agencies for their pl usage. If you find that your local sheriffs or local PD's are using 110.9, it's pretty inconclusive. It's also possible that the SP units were talking to local law enforcement as well.

 

[DaveNF2G]

Don't forget the Troopers' GE-Star squawks.

 

[Spec]

Dave - You tweaked my ear a bit here. I really never noticed the G star in K Troop before so I started to monitor it a bit more intensely. Zone 2 / 3 mobiles are not transmitting G-Star on 370, 475, or (surprising) 665. Is that standard in G Troop on those frequencies to have the G-Star enabled ?

 

[WatnNY]

NYSP do not transmit G-star on car to car, tactical, interagency (.370) or national (.475) up in Troop D either. I think it may just depend on the dealer who programs the radios as to what little quirks the radios do.

Mike

 

[MB]

In Troop B, I have never ever heard them use 155.475. And when I asked a Trooper about that frequency, he said they can only receive on that frequency . I wonder why, especially when they work with Customs, Border Patrol, FBI and DEA all the time. When they work with the Feds they always use car to car.

Some Troop cars use G-Star on .370 in Troop B but not on car to car or tactical.

 

[cookiend15]

Interesting

In Troop B, I have never ever heard them use 155.475. And when I asked a Trooper about that frequency, he said they can only receive on that frequency . I wonder why, especially when they work with Customs, Border Patrol, FBI and DEA all the time. When they work with the Feds they always use car to car.

Some Troop cars use G-Star on .370 in Troop B but not on car to car or tactical.

I thought that 155.475 is a BM Base/Mobile frequency, so I was under the impression that they meaning the NYSP could not only receive on 155.475 but they could also transmit on 155.475.

I did not know that, you learn something new everyday.

P.S. What is this G-Star that you all are talking about.

 

[MB]

155.475 is supposed to be a National mobile frequency that is used to communicate around the nation, but for some reason Troop B can't transmit on that frequency. Not sure why.

G-Star is that squawk noise you hear before transmissions. It is actually an ANI (automatic number identification) system. The squawk is actually a data burst that will show the Troop cars unit number back at Comdata or Princetown, ex. 3G36 will show up on the console at Princetown when 3G36 is transmitting to them.

 

[58006]

155.475 is supposed to be a National mobile frequency that is used to communicate around the nation.

On another side note, the Division of State Police is the "Approving Authority" for 155.475 in NYS. Any agency that wants to be legal and actually be licensed on the frequency, needs a Letter of Approval from the Division of State Police before the Frequency Coordinator will even look at it. Needless to say, I assume they do not grant that approval often. 155.475 is used a lot in the Washington County area. When Washington County went to license the new radio system, 155.475 was part of the license, DSP refused to grant approval for the County to have it in the Communications Center, so the frequency was removed from the license and the project. Though it is used in the field often. Just some gee whiz Governmental Monkey Business.

 

[DaveNF2G]

155.475 was part of the license, DSP refused to grant approval for the County to have it in the Communications Center, so the frequency was removed from the license and the project. Though it is used in the field often. Just some gee whiz Governmental Monkey Business.

This is another bit of evidence as to the real motivation behind SWN - the NYSP want their radio communications to be secret, and they are not concerned whatsoever with interoperability beyond being able to use everyone else's frequencies when they feel the need.

 

[cookiend15]

155.370 & 155.475

On another side note, the Division of State Police is the "Approving Authority" for 155.475 in NYS. Any agency that wants to be legal and actually be licensed on the frequency, needs a Letter of Approval from the Division of State Police before the Frequency Coordinator will even look at it. Needless to say, I assume they do not grant that approval often. 155.475 is used a lot in the Washington County area. When Washington County went to license the new radio system, 155.475 was part of the license, DSP refused to grant approval for the County to have it in the Communications Center, so the frequency was removed from the license and the project. Though it is used in the field often. Just some gee whiz Governmental Monkey Business.

I had thought that 155.370 statewide and 155.475 nationwide were both frequencies that could be used by any law enforcement agency not just the NYSP.

I though that county sheriff's and local PD's could use both as well.

Again I learn something new everyday.

 

[jaymatt1978]

I could be wrong but only BASE stations have to be licensed techincally. I think towns put X amount of mobile units on a license and that covers not only every mobile license. For example Town A has 20 actual vehicles on the road but has a license for 60 mobile units, meaning portables or vehicle radios. They could use those mobiles anyway they want meaning give it to other town units for mutual aid. I have looked and 155.3700 and 155.4750 are in MOST car radios in NY State, I would assume they have transmit capabilites