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rr60

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June in Government time = Q3-Q4 perhaps at best, just watch. Encryption technically is the easy part, the gymnastics and coordination is a real challenge IMHO. NJ Transit Police is a good example.

Side note, perhaps stating the obvious.

The overnights have light staffing. This results in less traffic being pulled to other ICS Cells. For example limited staff operates at TT rollover 78/287. Site 60 carries bulk of traffic, nothing heard Site 7 Union County Cell, however Site 1 for Totowa Barracks pulls traffic.
 

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The overnights have light staffing.

Keep in mind NJSP's policy of 2-man cars at night on certain roadways. Also reduces the number of radios on air.

Unrelated... RID's 11111000-11119999 appear to all be NJSP Investigations radios. And Secure 2627 appears to be being utilized almost exclusively by the Auto Theft Task Force.
 

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so the world cup is the "deadline" for enabling encryption on the nics system. that seems like wishful thinking. is a vendor doing this? with the world situation and especially the state budget I wonder if there will be anything in NJ.
Not NJICS. The systen is not going to encryption. We are talking about State Police.
 

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so the world cup is the "deadline" for enabling encryption on the nics system.
The World Cup has little to do with NJSP going encrypted. So I wouldn't use that as a timeline.
Amazing...

How would anyone on these forums even know what the true reason and timeline if for the move?
 

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Amazing...

How would anyone on these forums even know what the true reason and timeline if for the move?
I don't know...maybe some of us are sitting here typing looking at their issued APX8000 affiliated to a secure talkgroup on NJICS...just maybe. 🤔
 

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So, the question I have for those who know. Why the need to create a separate "secure" channel for each Troop dispatch? Couldn't they just turn on encryption for the existing talk group? I know that we see existing talkgroups change all the time from non-encrypted to encrypted. I also understand that radios need to be programmed as part of the process. Could NJSP be creating the ability for each Troop dispatch to go encrypted if need be, but keep the majority of comms in the clear?
 

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So, the question I have for those who know. Why the need to create a separate "secure" channel for each Troop dispatch? Couldn't they just turn on encryption for the existing talk group? I know that we see existing talkgroups change all the time from non-encrypted to encrypted. I also understand that radios need to be programmed as part of the process. Could NJSP be creating the ability for each Troop dispatch to go encrypted if need be, but keep the majority of comms in the clear?
They created new talkgroups so that they could patch the clear and secure during the transition period. Once a subscriber is keyed and reprogrammed, they can start operating on the new secure talkgroup. Since the talkgroups are patched, the subscribers without the new key can still hear everyone else. Once all subscribers are keyed and programmed and cut over to the secure talkgroup, the clear talkgroup goes away. Seamless transition.

And no, they are not going to be doing selective encryption. That's a recipe for disaster asking cops in the heat of the moment to switch between clear and secure. Go big or go home.

Anyway the bottom line here is enjoy listening while you can, because there's not much sand left in the hourglass regardless of when the actual "deadline" is (which is more of a goal, as this is all voluntary, there is no true deadline).
 

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They created new talkgroups so that they could patch the clear and secure during the transition period. Once a subscriber is keyed and reprogrammed, they can start operating on the new secure talkgroup. Since the talkgroups are patched, the subscribers without the new key can still hear everyone else. Once all subscribers are keyed and programmed and cut over to the secure talkgroup, the clear talkgroup goes away. Seamless transition.

And no, they are not going to be doing selective encryption. That's a recipe for disaster asking cops in the heat of the moment to switch between clear and secure. Go big or go home.

Anyway the bottom line here is enjoy listening while you can, because there's not much sand left in the hourglass regardless of when the actual "deadline" is (which is more of a goal, as this is all voluntary, there is no true deadline).
Thank you!
 
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