769.69375 NAC 455 Newburgh Area

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Hello my fellow RadioReferencers and Forensic Scannist.

Caught some encrypted comms today in the Newburgh area, sound simplex.

Frequency was 769.69375 NAC 455.

RIDs where in the 842### range.

Ran a license search for New York and it didn't come up with anything.
 

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Odd. I ran the frequency on ULS and nothing came up for NY. Thank you.
 

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While I am not a forensic scannist, nor pretend to be, I did find this...
A scan of the ULS entry Bill posted shows that frequency set being used under that state license

111 769.69375 1071 799.69375
112 1072
 

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I sat on 769.69375 with DSD+ for some time yesterday, and I didn't get any hits from that same area.

That application was just a letter listing MTA/MRRS channels and sites recently added under the license.
Interesting. What does this mean exactly?
 

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Regarding the WPTZ779 SL license, that covers the entire state for the usage of the 700 MHz spectrum allocated exclusively to the states. Every state was allocated the same pool of frequencies, which they coordinate among themselves, and they are not required to license those frequencies on a per-site basis as you would with an SY license covering the general pool of 700 MHz spectrum. The requirement to notify the FCC was limited to a few specific benchmarks, all of which were met several years ago. What you're seeing with that application was the final notification, which was submitted 3 years and and the FCC still has not acted on.

Note that the state has wide discretion in what they can do with their allocated frequencies. For example, they allowed the MTA to use frequencies from their pool to build out the MRRS. The NYSP also received frequencies for tactical repeaters and simplex channels.

Also note that NYSP generally use a NAC of 917 on their P25 channels, not 455.

Here are all of the frequencies that are specifically allocated to the states under the SL licenses:

769.15625770.15625773.03125774.03125
769.16875770.16875773.04375774.04375
769.18125770.18125773.05625774.05625
769.19375770.19375773.06875774.06875
769.20625770.20625773.08125774.08125
769.21875770.21875773.09375774.09375
769.40625770.40625773.28125774.28125
769.41875770.41875773.29375774.29375
769.43125770.43125773.30625774.30625
769.44375770.44375773.31875774.31875
769.45625770.45625773.33125774.33125
769.46875770.46875773.34375774.34375
769.65625770.65625773.53125774.53125
769.66875770.66875773.54375774.54375
769.68125770.68125773.55625774.55625
769.69375770.69375773.56875774.56875
769.70625770.70625773.58125774.58125
769.71875770.71875773.59375774.59375
769.90625770.90625773.78125774.78125
769.91875770.91875773.79375774.79375
769.93125770.93125773.80625774.80625
769.94375770.94375773.81875774.81875
769.95625770.95625773.83125774.83125
769.96875770.96875773.84375774.84375
 

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While I am not a forensic scannist, nor pretend to be, I did find this...
A scan of the ULS entry Bill posted shows that frequency set being used under that state license

111 769.69375 1071 799.69375
112 1072
Was wishful it had site names/locations as some states have filed that in their attachments, O well not the case here, but could be on other FCC attachment filings....
 

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Was wishful it had site names/locations as some states have filed that in their attachments, O well not the case here, but could be on other FCC attachment filings....
I believe the information you are looking for is in the RRDB. The Metro-25/MTA MRRS system has been mentioned several times in this thread.
 

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Right, because this thread has nothing to do with trunked systems, and yet some of the off-topic posts keep mentioning site and system licenses. The OP specifically stated that this was simplex operation, which means no repeater, no trunking, etc. The fact that the MTA uses some of the statewide 700 MHz frequencies which are blanket covered under the state's SL license is irrelevant.
 

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If the RIDs match up with users in one of the known 7/800 systems, I would guess a vehicle repeater. The IDs can pass right through a VR so it could be a way to confirm users
 
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