Adding P25

[rkumetz]

Anyone have an idea what adding P25 conventional and possibly P25 trunking to a P5400 or M5300 costs these days?

I have a pile of them on 800 (including 3 NIB P5400's) but I suspect that nobody will be interested in them with only EDACS so
I need to figure out what it will cost to put P25 in them to figure out what I should ask for them.

 

[natedawg1604]

Quite honestly they are worth $0, you really should just scrap them. I really hope you didn't buy these from some auction just to re-sell them, if so you bought paperweights. P25 trunking (Option 39) costs wayyy more than the radios are worth, like $1300 or something in that neighborhood.

Even adding P25 Conventional would cost several hundred dollars, more than you could ever sell the radio for. If the radios had only P25 conventional, you could maybe get $100, because such a radio could be used for 800 simplex. Assuming a dealer would even sell you P25 upgrades for a radio that old, either upgrade would cost far more than you could re-sell them for.

If they were in a different band people could use them for ham use, but 800 analog only radios are basically worth zero.

 

[rkumetz]

Yeah I know. It is really unfortunate. They are also relatively unused. A whole county full of fire departments switched to VHF right after
they rebanded. I tried to convince the rebanding coordinator to ask Nextel to buy them less expensive VHF radios instead but that was
way too "outside the box". My thinking was that it would be a win-win. The agencies get what they really want and Nextel saved money.
I say Nextel because I am old and too tired to even bother following who owns their assets at the moment.....

At this point I would just like to see them not end up in the dumpster. If someone bought them for some pittance to cover the effort to box
them up and paid the shipping everyone would be happy.

 

[ElroyJetson]

I can assist you with adding features to any currently supported Harris radio.

The M5300 is feature limited and will not do P25 Phase II. This is because it has option 30 in it, which is the flag that denies Phase II functionality, and Harris will NOT remove that feature unless you pay the price difference between an M5300 and an M7300, which is considerable.

I'm working on preparing to sell a pretty large number of M7300s and also P7300s all of which have P25 Phase 1 trunking and some have Phase 2.

 

[natedawg1604]

I can assist you with adding features to any currently supported Harris radio.

The M5300 is feature limited and will not do P25 Phase II. This is because it has option 30 in it, which is the flag that denies Phase II functionality, and Harris will NOT remove that feature unless you pay the price difference between an M5300 and an M7300, which is considerable.

I'm working on preparing to sell a pretty large number of M7300s and also P7300s all of which have P25 Phase 1 trunking and some have Phase 2.

Doesn't option 39 cost around $1300?

 

[ElroyJetson]

Depends on the radio type. For an XL-185, the P25 trunking package by itself lists for 1500 dollars. But the P25 upgrade if you have EDACS trunking already in the radio is 500 dollars.

In the case of the M7300/P7300 radios, the same packages are 1100 and 700 dollars respectively. These are all list prices before discounts.

So it's best by far to get your hands on a radio that already has P25 Phase 1 trunking. Then the Phase 2 upgrade is only 250 dollars.

(Which I have...both M7300s and P7300s)

 

[radioman2001]

What's the cost to upgrade to Phase II in a XG-15 that already has P-25 phase I. Also is there a method to place the radio in service mode to read the options. There really is very limited info on Harris stuff.

 

[ElroyJetson]

250 dollars list is pretty much what it costs to add Phase II to any Harris radio that already has Phase I.

You don't place the radio in service mode. You just select the FEATURES menu and read out the data from there. If it's not present in the radio, it's added into the radio via RPM, in the menu options.

I can offer feature upgrades for a modest price break off of list price. They are legit upgrades from Harris, not hacked upgrades. After they're done, if you were to ask the TAC for your radio's feature string on record, it'll match up to what's in the radio after upgrading the features.