Adrie EMS/Fire - Alberta Game and Park Wardens

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Looking for Freqs. for Adrie EMS/Fire (I hope they can be heard from Calgary)! Also, looking for freqs. for Alberta Game and Park Wardens.
And also, looking for freqs for Calgary ByLaw officers and Animal Control officers?

Thanks!!!!

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Airdrie or Adrie?

If it is Airdrie, suggest looking under Database home under Rockyview. Will give you EMS/RCMP. Not really sure what you want with Alberta Game and Park Wardens. Alberta Sustainable Resources are on the Mike iDen system so cannot be monitored. Same for Calgary Bylaw and Animal Control. Frequencies for Alberta Forest Services are listed under Database home as well.
 

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Fish & Wildlife officers use FireNet. MDMRS (the link smason provided in the post above this one) is pretty much 100% dead for all agencies these days.
 
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Ardrie EMS/Fire

I have programmed in these freqs. a week ago and I have not heard as much as a transmission,are these freqs the most recent freqs. are have they moved to TMR or elsewhere. I live in Calgary(SW) and I can hear Cochrane EMS/Fire okay and Ardrie is no further away,so I am curious to why I can not hear anything. I am sure there must have one Fire or Medical call in Ardrie over the last week! P.S. I can hear the RCMP(Ardrie) clearly?

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I have programmed in these freqs. a week ago and I have not heard as much as a transmission,are these freqs the most recent freqs. are have they moved to TMR or elsewhere. I live in Calgary(SW) and I can hear Cochrane EMS/Fire okay and Ardrie is no further away,so I am curious to why I can not hear anything. I am sure there must have one Fire or Medical call in Ardrie over the last week! P.S. I can hear the RCMP(Ardrie) clearly?

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depending where in SW calgary you live there may be terrain between you and where the repeaters are located that is blocking the signal i am not sure if the Airdrie RCMP repeaters are physically located together, but which of the RCMP repeaters are you able to hear? one is for the town its self and the other is used by the Hiway patrol. i do know that when i was working in Airdrie that the A1 and A9 repeaters were patched together
 
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I used to have the same problems with sketchy reception from Airdie until, for about $150 got myself a Comet discone antenna and erected it high up on a pole in the yard to use with my base, and all I can say is WOW the reception is AWESOME!!! They might as well be parked in my yard :)

Whether or not your situation allows you to do this I don't know, but if you can, then I'd say DO IT!!! :)
 

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Airdrie or Adrie?

As with any VHF transmissions, there are a number of factors involved. Line of site is the most important. If there is not a clear shot to the transmitting points, reception will decrease as distance increases. Then, one has to remember that the direction the transmissions leave their sites also impacts receptions areas. All these frequencies are easily heard in the north half of Calgary, unless in a valley or SW of Nose Hill. Certainly, north and northeast Calgary is very good. The rest of the city depends on your altitude. The lower the worse, the higher the better. SW Calgary is a large area from Bow River to 22X so if in the river valley or near 22X, one may be out of luck. Snob Hill, AKA Westhills will be good if up high. Unless you have a 100 foot tower in the deep SW you will be out of luck.
 
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The RCMP Ardrie is 155.805 MHZ this is very clear,no problems. Is it possible that they are using 400 MHZ as a backup or possibly TMR radios?
 
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Also curious to why the province wide radio network has not been upgraded to TMR outside the city areas,VHF and UHF 400 MHZ are still popular with Fire services ,EMS and Police(RCMP). Has anyone heard when the province might upgrading the system where TMR will be primary usage and VHF and 400 MHZ UHF will become a secondary system? I notice other provinces have switched to TMR 800 MHZ years ago and are now working on the new 700 MHZ system.Just curious why Alberta isn't more aggressive with the communication network?
 
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Mystery still continues with freqs.

So okay I am baffled by receiving or should I say attempting to hear radio traffic from Airdrie (Fire Services). I have mounted a discone external antenna approx. 30 ft. high and hooked up my scanner and I waited in hopes of hearing some radio traffic other than Calgary. I been have listening to the radio for about 8 hours now and I heard Cochrane EMS/Fire clearly, RCMP in Airdrie, Crossfield Fire, Chestermere Fire, Strathmore RCMP. I was listening to 169.410 MHZ which is suppose to be Airdrie Fire ,what I am hearing is encrypted digital ,something similar to trying to listen to TMR P25 APCO transmission on a scanner that does not have APCO P25 decoder (Woody Wood Pecker sound). It is only short burst but it transmits maybe ever 5 minutes. Does anyone have any clues to why is this being transmitted on VHF 169.740 MHZ?
Also, does anyone have the freqs. Foothills Regional EMS for their coverage area such Okotoks,High River,etc.
 

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Please, do some looking/searching before asking repeated questions. The FREMS frequencies, input/output are ALL listed under the Database for Alberta under FOOTHILLS! Someone else has already pointed you to the Alberta Database. If this isn't sufficient can try TAFL [do a search] or Industry Canada database under Spectrum Direct Main Menu [do a search]. You might even find what 169.41 is. Like County of Wheatland, this is most likely MOTOTRBO. And before it is asked again, NO CONSUMER SCANNER/RADIO can monitor this signal. Lock it out of scan unless you like to listen to digital MOTOTRBO noise. Because 169.41 is MOTOTRBO, I do not listen to it. I believe this is listed as the City Of Airdrie probably maintenance. Why they feel they need to go to MOTOTRBO is another question which has been discussed in other forums? I have had to EDIT this as you are talking about 2 frequencies. Are you sure 169.74 is DIGITAL? I have heard it on 169.41 but NOT 169.74. Can also hear MOTOTRBO on 463.9375 but then again, why listen to the noise?
 
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169.74

On 2009 July 22, at approx. 1800 hours, there was FM transmissions on 169.74 that were not digital nor encrypted.
 

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170.70

2009 July 24 0915 hours, activity on Airdrie EMS 170.70 with ambulance being dispatched. Cannot comment if on 171.27 as scanner stopped on 170.70. This was monitored in Central Calgary with full scale [? Rotary Park]?
 

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I haven't commented on this previously, but it's kinda getting out of hand, with certain people making surly and unfriendly commentary, so I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents.

First of all, the frequency 170.7 is the repeater input for 171.27. Transmissions heard on the input frequency of a repeater will only be heard near to a vehicle or portable radio transmitting, or a tower with the frequencies 'flipped' (see below). Most often, the reason for 'flipping' a tower's frequencies is to transmit from a base station into a far-away repeater site, and it's not meant as a repeater site used to enhance coverage of the system. Does that make sense?

Second, the frequencies for Airdrie Emergency Services are 169.74 for Fire and 171.27 for EMS, as shown in the DB here, and the TAFL. Airdrie has towers for these frequencies at 15 East Lake Hill (presumably the Airdrie public works yard) and at Rotary Park in Calgary. Tower sites in the TAFL are denoted with an "FX" in the class of station field, meaning "fixed". Furthermore, if you look at the frequencies for the towers as shown in the TAFL, the frequencies are 'flipped', meaning that the tower at Rotary Park is actually transmitting on 170.7, the repeater input frequency - which is why robertmac can hear the signal so well in the center of Calgary. The only place where the Airdrie Fire & EMS repeaters are transmitted "normally", looking at the TAFL, is from the East Lake Hill site. So, by nature of geography and how radios respond to tall buildings, trees, hills, and etc., there are a lot of places in the south and west parts of Calgary that are not going to hear Airdrie comms very well. It's probably safe to say that the folks that built Airdrie's radio system are only interested in signal coverage in their city plus whatever it takes to get to the various hospitals their ambulances transport to.

169.41 is the Airdrie public works department, as I discovered myself through plain old "sleuthing" (listening to the freq a lot and piecing together the conversation) several years ago. Are you guys saying it's TRBO now? I haven't listened to it in ages. If it is TRBO, someone should submit that to the DB and an admin will work it.

And to explain why you can hear Cochrane Fire/EMS so clearly: As shown in the TAFL, Cochrane has a tower and a channel located on the 90m ski jump at Canada Olympic Park. It's designed to cover the city, while the Airdrie system, with no "normal" tower in the city, is not.
 
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