AFRRCS - Alberta First Responders' Radio Communication System - INFO HERE

[harryshute]

Thanks to whoever posted the Lethbridge Fire talk groups. I do have a question about MA 13 and 14. Is there another AHS system that I'm not aware of as I don't have 1043 and 1044 listed. For SCC those two groups are 1023 and 1023. In Lethbridge I had groups 1063 and 1064. My Lethbridge info may not be correct.

Sorry everyone please disregard. I've been informed my info for Lethbridge is incorrect.

 

[harryshute]

RCMP AFRRCS migration

So 11 north east detachments now converted to AFRRCS. And some of us will be able to listen till late 2019.

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/mounties-continue-to-make-the-switch-to-new-radio-network

 

[DX-300]

This afternoon here in Calgary I observed talkgroup 2990 flash up on my screen while monitoring the Forest Lawn site’s activity that is most likely another one of the new 29xx RCMP talkgroups active. The mode is P25 encrypted and associated unit ID’s so far are 4440388, 4440394 , 4440395, 4440410 and 4440411.

 

[jloriginal]

thank you for your reply DX-300 Im not very good at these scanners or how to upload the things you mentioned. Ive always just plugged my scanner into win500 and it did all the work. Ill have to do some research on how to do stuff like this

 

[Mudary]

input 803.90675 using SDRconsole and DSD+ 1.01

sdr 803.90675 (not exact)
I don't hear anything, ENC, listening on input. NAC 3AB

2018/10/25 22:11:27 DSD+ 1.101pt [Public Release]
2018/10/25 22:11:27 D-STAR decoding enabled
2018/10/25 22:11:27 NXDN4800 decoding enabled
2018/10/25 22:11:27 NXDN9600 decoding enabled
2018/10/25 22:11:27 DMR/MotoTRBO decoding enabled
2018/10/25 22:11:27 P25 Phase 1 decoding enabled
2018/10/25 22:11:27 X2-TDMA decoding enabled
2018/10/25 22:11:27 ProVoice decoding enabled
2018/10/26 10:56:16 Group call; TG=3513 RID=4100175 1s
2018/10/26 10:56:39 Enc Group call; TG=3513 RID=4100175 Alg=AES KeyID=1479 10s
2018/10/26 10:57:18 Enc Group call; TG=3513 RID=4100175 Alg=AES KeyID=1479 4s
2018/10/26 11:01:02 Group call; TG=3513 RID=4100175 2s
2018/10/26 11:02:13 Enc Group call; TG=3513 RID=4100175 Alg=AES KeyID=1479 3s
2018/10/26 11:02:24 Enc Group call; TG=3513 RID=4100175 Alg=AES KeyID=1479 4s
2018/10/26 11:02:50 Enc Group call; TG=3513 RID=4100175 Alg=AES KeyID=1479
2018/10/26 11:02:50 Group call;
2018/10/26 11:12:49 Group call; TG=3513 RID=4100175 1s

 

[kayn1n32008]

sdr 803.90675 (not exact)

I don't hear anything, ENC, listening on input. NAC 3AB



TG=3513 RID=4100175 Alg=AES KeyID=1479

2018/10/26 11:02:50 Group call;

Not sure I understand.

The data you show is Radio 4100175 making a group call on TG 3513 using AES encryption.

You won’t hear anything with out a properly provisioned radio, that has been loaded with proper AES encryption keys.



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[Mudary]

input 803.90675 using SDRconsole and DSD+ 1.01

Ok, what is NAC 3AB, and TG=3513. Sorry if i'm not understood.

 

[smason]

sdr 803.90675 (not exact)
I don't hear anything, ENC, listening on input. NAC 3AB

Where are you located? As far as I know, that's not an AFRRCS freq or TG.

 

[kayn1n32008]

Ok, what is NAC 3AB, and TG=3513. Sorry if i'm not understood.

NAC is Network Access Code. The P25 equivalent of what PL or DPL is to analogue. There are 4096 unique NAC codes (3 Hex digits)

I have no idea who is assigned TG 3513. It belongs to agency 410. I don’t recall who agency 410 is.


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[kayn1n32008]

Where are you located? As far as I know, that's not an AFRRCS freq or TG.

803.xxxxx would be an input frequency


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[Mudary]

for smason
VA6GSB,, in Bashaw

 

[Jay911]

Where are you located? As far as I know, that's not an AFRRCS freq or TG.

The frequency is probably 773.90625 (700 MHz inputs are +30 MHz from the normal outputs). That would make it either Rocky site (rural Rocky Mountain House) or Fort MacKay.

TG 3513 is unknown but attributed to unknown agency 410 at this time.

NAC 3AB identifies the site. In a Harris system like AFRRCS, each site will have a unique NAC. Marble Mountain is NAC 3AA and is 05B-158, and 05B-159 is Rocky, so I would assume this user is working on Rocky.

 

[Mudary]

Skip must be good to me if if Rocky, it was on 803.906xx input for about an hour until I had to leave.
Mudary

 

[smason]

The frequency is probably 773.90625 (700 MHz inputs are +30 MHz from the normal outputs). That would make it either Rocky site (rural Rocky Mountain House) or Fort MacKay.

Wow, brain fart. I forgot about the 30MHZ split. Oops.

 

[harryshute]

Skip must be good to me if if Rocky, it was on 803.906xx input for about an hour until I had to leave.
Mudary

An Agency 410 unit could easily have been working in Rocky. Right now some say 410 may be ALERT. Where were you when this was logged?

 

[Mudary]

VA6GSB, you can look it up on aprs.fi.

outside antenna about 40 foot

 

[Mudary]

Jay911, email address, I would like to send TG 154 audio files to you. Just under 4 mb. Received from PSR-800 converted to WS1080.
Mudary

 

[Jay911]

Thanks Mudary for the files. Got to identify some agencies.

Agency 6 (6xxxx) is Stettler County CPO
Agency 22 (22xxxx) is Leduc CPO
Agency 27 (27xxxx) is Clearwater CPO
Agency 37 (37xxxx) is Lacombe County CPO
Agency 700 (700xxxx) is still sort of unknown but is CPO agency 12 (12L4 is one unit that I heard). CPOs seem to use their county/MD numbers as callsigns, so whatever municipal district 12 is. County 12 is Athabasca but I don't think they'd be on this channel.

 

[harryshute]

700 is Canada Parks CPO in Jasper.

One other thought regarding Mudary's logging in Bashaw. Agency 410 is beginning to look as if it is ALERT. They have a fixed wing surveillance plane. Could the plane have been on the Rocky tower and due to the height of the plane Mudary was able to log it on the input channel?

 

[Jay911]

Entirely possible. I've logged users within other agencies that we've indicated were ALERT components in that agency before, though - is that a thing, or would they have all moved into one separate agency?