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I heard that an amtrak collided with a truck in NC and killed the 2 occupants. I searched the news and couldnt find a thing. Anyone got any links?
 

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Amtrak Train Hits Dump Truck in NC

From Railwire Prototype and Railnews Forum:

"Emergency crews are responding to an accident involving a heavy-duty truck and an Amtrak passenger train.
The accident occurred near Hammond Road and Rush Street in southeast Raleigh around 12:45 p.m. today.

Eyewitnesses say they saw the truck, which was described as a dump truck, speeding down Rush Street toward a rail crossing.

The train was unable to stop and hit the truck. Several cars of the passenger train had derailed.

The driver of the truck was killed in the accident and the train's conductor had to be extricated from the engine car. The extent of his injuries is unclear.

Rush Street, from Hammond Road to Sheldon Streets, remains closed as are portions of Hammond.


Posted on the Railwire Prototype and Railnews Forum by "fulltritty"

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thanks, ive been on an amtrak. i was awesome. course when we got back, i found out that the same train, well another train but the same route. had collided with a truck like 3 mo earlier and killed some ppl. i still had fun though
 
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ANd then of course the truck driver, victems families, and truck company are all gonna try and sue Amtrak. Why? For the money. Even though, as in most of these cases, it was the drivers own negligence and stupidity.
 

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Why does the media always say " the train was unable to stop".... it is steel wheels on steel rails. The line should read .." the truck did not stop...." Like the train has an early warning device to alert it to when people bust thru the crossing?
 

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true. 9 times out of 10 an accident was caused by the vehicle trying to beat the train. (i put my money on the train) and the 10th is a faulty crossing guard and/or lights. ive seen that happen before.
 

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im not saying it wasnt horrible that 2 were killed, but my amtrak train had around 110 aboard and they can hold more. but waiting 2min can save 200 lives. i wish some ppl would think about that more often.
 

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The crossing gate and or lights is designed to drop down and stay down automatically and flash if it is "defective" But you're correct, I've seen them too try to drop down and then go back and up and so on.....


Some years ago a company hopefully out of business was marketing a 'approaching train device" for autos. How did it work? Well they surmised that by designing a simple rf reciever that monitored the 'fred' and or 'mary' channel it would then send a signal to alert the reciever. Kinda dumb when you consider that both UHF and some VHF end of train freq are in use along with the fact that passenger trains dont require them.
 

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yeah, and if someone is gonna run infront of the train when they can see it. it probobly wouldnt do them any good. i would help the ppl who cant see the train for some reason.
 

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ward8vfd said:
true. 9 times out of 10 an accident was caused by the vehicle trying to beat the train. (i put my money on the train) and the 10th is a faulty crossing guard and/or lights. ive seen that happen before.

I don't have any factual data to support this, but I'll go further out on a limb and say that greater than 99.9% of train vs. passanger vehicles are the fault of the driver of the passanger vehicle.

Crossing arms, lights, etc. can be nice warning devices, however they don't always function & not every crossing is equipped with any such device. The car driver still needs to pay attention. Trains don't stop on a dime- and I hope everyone reading that drives knows by now that cars don't either.
 

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Hi choo choos,

You think that's dumb? I have a print news article with pictures of a tractor-trailer that ran into the MIDDLE of a train, the truck was going at 50MPH and there were no skid marks.

I seldom read remarks in these threads about the engineer, think about him/her and the problems coping with the post traumatic stress.

On the lighter side, you probably saw on TV the trucker trying to beat a pony (NS) to the crossing, watching him bounce around in the cab like a ping-pong ball as the truck was dragged down the track was hillarious! For those who haven't seen it, the only casualty was a track side signal. Then there was BNSF vs. a truckload of rum, after the explosion the cleanup crew rather celebrated their good fortune. (The cargo was a write-off and never recovered.) A decade earlier a train leaving a brewery derailed alongside a college... TO-GA! Then last year was my favorite right here at the shore when some kids walking the tracks jumped into a swamp to avoid the train. I would love to have been a fly on the wall when they got home and explained to mom why they were all covered with black smelly mud.

Oh, what was that about a warning device tuned to FRED? What were they thinking? Nobody gets hit by the hind end! (;->)

In closing, there are no grade crossings along the route of Amtrak's Acela. Think about it.
 
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