Auburn Police, missing a couple talkgroups

[Postal44]

I often hear the Auburn dispatcher tell a unit "on data". Is this a different talkgroup or is the dispatcher telling the unit to send her data using the in car computer?

Sometimes I hear the dispatcher tell a unit to switch to TAC, they do and then the unit might tell the dispatcher the license plate number and other info about what's going on, or maybe the unit has asked for the telephone number or something and they switch to TAC to relay that info. I'm assuming so that it doesn't hold up the Admin channel in case someone else needs to use it, then they switch back to Admin.

I've also heard the dispatcher tell someone to switch to something else, which sounds like a second talkgroup that I might not have either, I can't remember off hand what they called. I'll write it down if I hear it again.

If these are indeed other talkgroups that aren't widely known, they aren't in the database, how would I go about discovering the frequency being used and/or the talkgroup number being used?

 

[mwhohnstein]

I am new to scanning and I have been trying to find Auburn Police radio freqencies to input into my scanner. How or where did you find your. Would you be interested in listing them for Auburn?

 

[Postal44]

I programmed my scanner using Win97 and the database here.

Auburn Police, like most of King County, uses a trunked system, so you need a trunking scanner to listen to them. If you just have a conventional scanner, best you can do is program in all the simulcast freqs. You'll hear "everything" that goes out over those freqs, but you won't really know who you are listening to.

 

[SouthSoundScanner]

Here's what I have in my Scanner, I drive a dart bus in Auburn
and listen to Auburn Pd all day long.

Display TGID
AUBURN DISP 36944
AUBURN DISP 36947 patch
AUBURN TAC 36976
AUBURN TAC 36979 patch
AUBURN ADMIN 37008
AUBURN DATA 37424
Auburn PS 40080

ALGONA & PACIFIC

AL-PAC DISP 36848
AL-PAC DISP 36851 patch
AL-PAC TAC 36880
AL-PAC TAC 36883 patch
AL-PAC ADMIN 36912

Auburn is Adam
Algona is Lincoln
Pacific is Paul

The 3 towns are usually all patched together,
no need for 3 Dispatchers when 1 can handle it.

 

[mwhohnstein]

Thanks for the response. I have a older scanner where I have to enter the freq. Such as 851.250. I was hopping I could just manaully enter all the freq's, but it looks like I need to purchase a scanner that does trunking. Thanks!!!!

 

[lowboy654]

Here's what I have in my Scanner, I drive a dart bus in Auburn
and listen to Auburn Pd all day long.

Display TGID
AUBURN DISP 36944
AUBURN DISP 36947 patch
AUBURN TAC 36976
AUBURN TAC 36979 patch
AUBURN ADMIN 37008
AUBURN DATA 37424
Auburn PS 40080

ALGONA & PACIFIC

AL-PAC DISP 36848
AL-PAC DISP 36851 patch
AL-PAC TAC 36880
AL-PAC TAC 36883 patch
AL-PAC ADMIN 36912

Auburn is Adam
Algona is Lincoln
Pacific is Paul

The 3 towns are usually all patched together,
no need for 3 Dispatchers when 1 can handle it.

I would like to add this info to the database here but some of the info dose not add up like 36851 is rejected as I get this when I try to add it I get this Invalid type 2 talkgroup. must be between 16 and 65520 and divisable by 16, so that talkgroup ID is missed typed, if you could please recheck your info and I will add it to the database here.

 

[DickH]

Motorola Status Bits

I would like to add this info to the database here but some of the info dose not add up like 36851 is rejected as I get this when I try to add it I get this Invalid type 2 talkgroup. must be between 16 and 65520 and divisable by 16, so that talkgroup ID is missed typed, if you could please recheck your info and I will add it to the database here.

Talk groups ending in uneven numbers have status bits added to them for various functions.

MOTOROLA STATUS BITS - Example
42656 ID+0 Normal Talkgroup
42657 ID+1 All Talkgroup
42658 ID+2 Emergency
42659 ID+3 Talkgroup patch to another
42660 ID+4 Emergency Patch
42661 ID+5 Emergency multi-group
42662 ID+6 Not assigned
42663 ID+7 Multi-select (initiated by dispatcher)
42664 ID+8 DES Encryption talkgroup
42665 ID+9 DES All Talkgroup
42666 ID+10 DES Emergency
42667 ID+11 DES Talkgroup patch
42668 ID+12 DES Emergency Patch
42669 ID+13 DES Emergency multi-group
42670 ID+14 Not assigned
42671 ID+15 Multi-select DES TG

DES is a type of encryption. Impossible to monitor.

 

[SouthSoundScanner]

With the exception of the Talk-Groups with 3 added for the patch, all of the Talk-Groups are in the Database.

I had a little time to actually watch the scanner screen today in Auburn to see how things are patched together.
Auburn PD Primary 36944 came on the air, I locked it out and
Algona-Pacific PD Primary popped up with 36944. I have Algona-Pacific PD Primary programmed as 36848.

 

[Postal44]

With the exception of the Talk-Groups with 3 added for the patch, all of the Talk-Groups are in the Database.

I had a little time to actually watch the scanner screen today in Auburn to see how things are patched together.
Auburn PD Primary 36944 came on the air, I locked it out and
Algona-Pacific PD Primary popped up with 36944. I have Algona-Pacific PD Primary programmed as 36848.

So, from what I understand from what you wrote, you have the odd numbered talkgroups programmed into your scanner, correct? I also get the error when trying to program them. The status bits part is pretty confusing to me, although I understand what it does, I don't understand it as it pertains to programming the scanner.

Maybe if you could write up how exactly did you program those talkgroups in your scanner, that would help.

 

[SouthSoundScanner]

So, from what I understand from what you wrote, you have the odd numbered talkgroups programmed into your scanner, correct? I also get the error when trying to program them. The status bits part is pretty confusing to me, although I understand what it does, I don't understand it as it pertains to programming the scanner.

Maybe if you could write up how exactly did you program those talkgroups in your scanner, that would help.

Looks like you have a Pro-97 and you can't do Status bits with that model.
I can with my BCD396Xt. Try entering 36944 for Auburn Primary, 36976 for Tac, 37424 for Data and 37008 for Admin. The Control Channel is 851.8125. Set the Bank to MOT and set all the frequencies to MOT. Make sure Bank is closed and that the sub-bank is turned on.

 

[Postal44]

Looks like you have a Pro-97 and you can't do Status bits with that model.
I can with my BCD396Xt. Try entering 36944 for Auburn Primary, 36976 for Tac, 37424 for Data and 37008 for Admin. The Control Channel is 851.8125. Set the Bank to MOT and set all the frequencies to MOT. Make sure Bank is closed and that the sub-bank is turned on.

I have all those talkgroups already since I use the database from here to program it. I was afraid you were going to say that pertaining to the Status Bits.

From my original post, I did figure out the "switch to data" thing, and now have ValleyCom Data Talkgroup in with the Auburn talkgroups.

So is it just the Uniden scanners that can do the Status Bits?

 

[SouthSoundScanner]

I'm not sure about the newer Radio Shack models or the Gre scanners, maybe someone else can help.

 

[lowboy654]

Sorry about the lag time with me getting back to this had family in town, any how I know all about Status bits if you have a 97 it wont do, what I was looking for is if you have something new that is not in the database add it here and I will see that it is added to the database here,

Thanks, Ken

 

[DickH]

So, from what I understand from what you wrote, you have the odd numbered talkgroups programmed into your scanner, correct? I also get the error when trying to program them. The status bits part is pretty confusing to me, although I understand what it does, I don't understand it as it pertains to programming the scanner.

Maybe if you could write up how exactly did you program those talkgroups in your scanner, that would help.

He didn't program them into his scanner. Some scanners can read talk groups with status bits, some can not. And some scanners let you choose whether or not it reads status bits.
Apparently the PRO-97 does not. When a talk group has status bits added, it just displays the basic talk group (with zero status bits) as shown in the list I posted.
Many people prefer not to see the status bits.

 

[DickH]

I would like to add this info to the database here but some of the info dose not add up like 36851 is rejected as I get this when I try to add it I get this Invalid type 2 talkgroup. must be between 16 and 65520 and divisable by 16, ...

... any how I know all about Status bits ...

That first quote doesn't sound as if you knew anything about status bits. That's why I put in the time and effort to dig up the complete list of status bits and post it.

 

[lowboy654]

That first quote doesn't sound as if you knew anything about status bits. That's why I put in the time and effort to dig up the complete list of status bits and post it.

Thanks Dick, I was just trying to get him on board and clear up what he was posting so that that everyone could understand, not everyone has the newest stuff

 

[Postal44]

So now I understand that I can't program anything to do with status bits, and I can't program any talk group that is an odd number.

Is what I'm understanding is that I will still hear stuff that goes out over a (talkgroup+status bits), but I will only see the main talkgroup? So I should just forget about the status bits all together?

 

[DickH]

So now I understand that I can't program anything to do with status bits, and I can't program any talk group that is an odd number.

Is what I'm understanding is that I will still hear stuff that goes out over a (talkgroup+status bits), but I will only see the main talkgroup? So I should just forget about the status bits all together?

YES, that's the way it will work.