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Hello Im a newbe and I have a baofeng uv5r and a tram dipole antenna set up for motorizing till I get my tech lic in Jan. I have installed chirp and have a hard time with receiving some repeaters in the area,
all I get is static. for ex 145.350 when i set the pl tone i get nothing I see the rec light come on.
when i take the pl tone of I get static when the rec light comes on.
any suggestions?
thank you this is happening to a few others as well.
 

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It all depends on how far away the repeaters are, how high they are and how high your antenna is. It's hard to say what's going on without knowing that.

I'm not familiar with the "Tram Dipole for motorizing", but make sure it's mounted vertically and not horizontally. Your local repeaters will be vertically polarized. You'll suffer a huge signal loss if your antenna is flat due to cross polarization.

On tones.. Sometimes you need to add a tone to your transmit signal in order to access a repeater. If you look up the info for repeaters on the web, they will almost always state which tone you need to use.

If you program a tone for receiving, your receiver will remain silent until it hears that exact tone. Since you can't hear your local repeater with a tone programmed, I suspect you've set the wrong tone. Or, the repeater isn't set up to transmit a tone. FWIW You don't need to set a receive tone in order to use a repeater. (I never do).

If you want to know more about tones, there's a write-up on CTSS here on Radioreference: Continuous Tone-Coded Squelch System - The RadioReference Wiki
 
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Thank you I will read through the information on ctcss tones.
I see my thread said motorizing, I ment monitoring.I can't tx yet just learning as much as I can for my test.I am taking an online study course and hope to be able to take my tech test in January.the antenna Is a Tram,dual band I have it up at the base of the antenna 20' the top of it is at 30' some times I get to hear conversations from a cross the state.seems that i get a better signal on the 70cm freq.
 
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Below is the link for the repeater site.

https://www.repeaterbook.com/index.php?state_id=none

And as JWT posted, usually you don't need a CTCSS on receive, only on tx to open the repeater.
What do you have your squelch set at? I also have the 5R and keep the squelch set to 2 or 3.
Also, do you have any way to check the swr?

edit: btw, 145.350 doesn't show it requiring a ctcss to open it. I suspect you may have ctcss set also in your rec mode. Just a thought.
 
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thank you guys but i have removed the ctss from that entry and still static only when the station ids it self will it be clear.I read somewhere that the uv5r's are not digital so they wont pick up digital repeaters.
 

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Are you using CHIRP or some other software? Or are you programming from the keypad? What you've written here still points to the possibility that you have CTCSS enabled on receive... and it's possible to easily overlook that on CHIRP and some of the other software. Let us know how you are programming the radio and we can provide much more specific info on what to check (screenshot from CHIRP, etc.).
 

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If he is using an external antenna it is possible that some strong signal like a nearby TV or FM station is killing the receiver.
 

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I can see no repeaters with the frequency you are using in Pasco county. Try 145.19, 146.88, 146.91 or 147.135. These have a tone of 146.2. I looked at Hernado Cty and no frequency that you are looking for is listed.. If you want to program your radio, go into Chirp, Radio, query datasource, then select repeater book. Every frequency available will be shown. Select Pasco, then Hernado cty's . If you havee cables, you can upload to your radio. I didn't check the county to your south as Hudson is sort of in the North of Pasco cty so I figured Hernado cty might be available. Being Florida is pretty flat where you are at, and with the radio's rubber duck, probably 6-8 miles will be you max range to the repeater tower, An HT is a convenience item. Good at a hamfest, crossbanding to a unit at home, around the neighborhood. Car to car if you are driving down the highway in close proximity to the other. If you put an HT on an external antenna, your capabilities are enhanced. Since you bought a Chinese HT, there are several Chinese mobiles that are very reasonable in price, many have more features than the Big Three, Yaesu, Kenwood, or ICOM. Most have 1 year warranties, through Amazon yopu can get extended out to three years. If your radio fails in the first year or your extended time period, you get another. The Big Three make nice radios but they have been featured out in many respects. I have some Big Three radios but lately they just get dusty as my Chinese units get more use.
 

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thank you guys but i have removed the ctss from that entry and still static only when the station ids it self will it be clear.I read somewhere that the uv5r's are not digital so they wont pick up digital repeaters.

Which repeater and how far away?

You're right. The UV5R will not be able to receive digital signals such as D-Star, DMR, P25 or Fusion.

Follow the Repeater Book link KC4RAF posted. It will tell you whether the repeater is digital or not.

When you mention hearing conversations from "across the state"... Just to let you know, some repeater systems are linked. Several separate repeaters over a large area can be connected together using a UHF channel or sometimes even over the internet. This provides more coverage than any single repeater can.
 

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thank you
I reprogrammed my unit and .350 didn't come up.so far Im receiving well Im on a uv5r so the power is low 5 watts .
i bought a swr meter but with my inexperience I bought a meter that only sees cb signals.its a workman swr-2t so I have started a collection of stuff now.some day it may come in handy.I guess i'm trying to get up to speed to quickly.I ordered a new mobile radio.

Yaesu FT-2900R 75 Watt 2 Meter VHF Mobile Transceiver Amateur Ham Radio
I plan to use it as a base unit in a can for mobile operations.
as far as checking my antenna swr Im gonna have to buy another on that's proper for the 2m-70cm freq.
I guess this is how many start out got to make mistakes and ask questions.
thanks for all the advice.
 
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You can use that CB swr meter for checking

the 2 meter antenna. I'll give you a link and help explain how it's done.
The 2900R is a really great transceiver. My wife (xyl) bought me one for Christmas!
Don't know why .350 can not be used; just wondering if maybe that repeater is down?
Here's the link in how to use the cb swr meter in the VHF segment:

No VHF SWR Meter? No Problem. - KB6NU's Ham Radio Blog

(I tried this trick and compared it to my MFJ antenna analyzer and it was VERY close.)
Read down the column and it'll explain how it's done.
This is in no way a guaranteed thing, but it'll give you an idea how you stand.

Have you ever used an swr meter before?
 

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No I have not used one before ,but I have watched a few you tube vids.
I will check out the page thank
You
 

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swr meter

ok I went to the linkl did what was explained and I get above 3 on the meter in the red.but I am rx a few freq with good antenna power on the screen.Im able to hit repeaters 12 miles away. gonna do more investigating.mainly with antenna heights. as i described earlier mine is up at the base 20 feet and at the top 30 feet.
 

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Yeah, if you can hit a repeater 12 or so miles away,

that's not bad. Like I said, it ain't no guarantee with the meter being used that way. But the one I have did a fair job of being close to my analyzer.
One thing that concerns me about the Baofengs is if they have a reduction circuit, where it would drop the output wattage due to bad swr. Once you get a vhf/uhf meter, see if it is close to the meter you have now.
 

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BobChiz. I see you must have got your licence as you mention being able to hit repeaters 12 miles away. Congratulations. Be careful using the 2900 in a can. The can might work like a faraday cage and drastically cut you signal output.
 
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