BC 346XT& ARC-XT PRO Software

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joe516

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H_E_L_P!
I do not have a problem with using the ARC software with conventional systems, but when I tried for trunked systems I am totally lost.

I am trying to set up the Nassau County, NY PD trunked system in the ARC software and am dead in the water. I really have no Idea what to do.

I need step by step instructions as to what I need to do. Can someone PLEASE send me exact instructions either here or at mwcmns@hotmail.com.

Thank you,
joe516
 

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While we don't have a user guide for ARC XT, there are a few things you can learn about how the scanner hears trunked systems - start here, and anything in blue is a link;

Program your DMA Scanner - The RadioReference Wiki

a. If you are having trouble with understanding trunk systems, read the links in the third bullet of the Nuts and Bolts section

b. In the next section, go to the Easier to Read website and download their manual for the 346XT - put the Uniden supplied one aside. Pay particular attention to how quick keys are used - this is one area that throws newcomers and oldtimers alike at first.

c. At the bottom of the article is the link for purchasing a premium subscription. It will make it much easier on you if all you need to do is to download the data from our database.

Once you understand these things, I think you will have little trouble. You might also jump down to the NY forum and ask for a ARC-XT file for your area. Be sure to be specific about what software you use, as various packages use different formats for their data

HTH...Mike
 

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1. You click Add a System on the left panel
2. On the system folder, change the system type to P-25 std
3. Under Site folder, click Add a site (you may have to hit refresh 1st)
4. On the right side, click on trunk freq tab and enter frequencies
6. on the Group red dot, add the TGID's(this is not necessary if you run in the search mode): In the system para's tab, change the ID mode to search,. and you will get ever TGID. Later, you can change it to scan after you have entered some TGID's
 
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joe516

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More help needed.

I sincerely thank all of you for your response, but I need to be led by the hand.
Specifically What Nassau County PD trunked info goes where.

Please access the NC Truncked frequencies listing and tell me what frequencies, numbers & tags go where. There are conflicting numbers and I am thoroughly at sea. The RR frequency listing is in hex and there is nowhere that hex numbers go. I can't figure out the side id or even the system.

PLease be as specific as possible


H_E_L_P!
I do not have a problem with using the ARC software with conventional systems, but when I tried for trunked systems I am totally lost.

I am trying to set up the Nassau County, NY PD trunked system in the ARC software and am dead in the water. I really have no Idea what to do.

I need step by step instructions as to what I need to do. Can someone PLEASE send me exact instructions either here or at mwcmns@hotmail.com.

Thank you,
joe516
 

joe516

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Almost There

I followed your instructions but I got the following error when I sent it to the scanner:
Error Creating new system. No resources available or system type not supported by this model.

Where does the following info go? It is from RR database NY Nassau county police

System Name: Nassau County Police
Location: Mineola, NY
County: Nassau
System Type: Project 25 Phase I (FDMA)
System Voice: APCO-25 Common Air Interface Exclusive
Last Updated: February 11, 2012, 6:14 pm (Updated Sites)

System ID List

System ID WACN
1AE BEE00


RFSS Site Name Freqs
1 (1) 001 (1) Data 500.03750 500.06250 500.08750 500.11250 500.13750 500.16250 500.18750 500.21250
500.23750 500.26250 500.28750 501.01250 501.41250
1 (1) 002 (2) Voice 500.45000 500.47500 500.52500 500.55000 500.65000 500.70000 500.72500 500.77500
500.87500 500.95000 500.97500 501.00000 501.05000a 501.07500 501.12500a 501.35000
501.37500 501.55000 501.62500 501.65000 501.70000 501.72500 501.85000a 502.20000a
502.40000c 502.50000 502.55000 502.70000 502.82500

Police Dispatch Talkgroups

As of 2/14/11, Nassau County Police have started simulcasting dispatch on the new trunk system.


DEC HEX Mode Alpha Tag Description Tag
1101 44d E NCPD 1/7 1st & 7th Precinct Law Dispatch
1201 4b1 E NCPD 2/8 2nd & 8th Precinct Law Dispatch
1301 515 E NCPD 3/6 3rd & 6th Precinct Law Dispatch
1401 579 E NCPD 4/5 4th & 5th Precinct Law Dispatch
1901 76d E HWY/ESU HWY / ESU / K-9 Law Dispatch

I owe you big time if you get this thing working for me!!!!!
 

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1. You click Add a System on the left panel
2. On the system folder, change the system type to P-25 std
3. Under Site folder, click Add a site (you may have to hit refresh 1st)
4. On the right side, click on trunk freq tab and enter frequencies
6. on the Group red dot, add the TGID's(this is not necessary if you run in the search mode): In the system para's tab, change the ID mode to search,. and you will get ever TGID. Later, you can change it to scan after you have entered some TGID's

Being that he has a 346XT, not a 396XT, changing it to P-25 digital won't help. The 346 is an analog only scanner.
Larry
 

joe516

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Thanks for your reply!!
I changed the system to Motorola & the scanner accepted the change. But I am not getting any hits. I will try frequencies in the 800 range if I can find any.
Thanks again,
Joe 516
 

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As Larry mentions, the Nassau County police are using a digital system, and the 346 is NOT a digital scanner. In the Uniden world, you'd need Home Patrol, the BCD396XT,BCD996XT, BCD396T or BCD996T to copy this system. You can find articles on all of these here...

Uniden Scanners - The RadioReference Wiki

Both the 396XT and 996XT are compatible with ARC-XT

HTH...Mike
 

joe516

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Bc 346xt

Thanks for setting me straight. It shows how little I know about these new fangled scanners. I should've kept my SC200, that was perfect for me!
 

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but Nassau Police's new trunk system is also encrypted, you will not be able to monitor the system. They are currently simulcasting on their legacy conventional system, though.
 

joe516

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Bc 346xt & arc-xt pro

I'd like to thank all of you for your help. It's too bad I learned the bad news after I bought the scanner. I hope I can find someone to by this brand new scanner, or hopefully I can trade it in for a digital at ScannerMaster.
Thanks again
Joe 516
 

joe516

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Digital, Encrypted Scanners

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Nassau Police's new trunk system is also encrypted, you will not be able to monitor the system. They are currently simulcasting on their legacy conventional system, though.

Would the HomePro be a good buy for encrypted & digital scanning? Or would the 996XT be better.
 

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Would the HomePro be a good buy for encrypted & digital scanning? Or would the 996XT be better.

Being that you can't hear encyrpted TGID's, it doesn't matter what scanner you use:( But, the 996XT is a really good digital, P-25 scanner. I hear that the Home Patrol is good on digital, but, I don't own one. Do have a 396XT though. Too many things I don't like about the scanner, one, to make it do what the 996XT does, it will cost another $100. Not worth it to me.
HTH,
Larry
 

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No scanner can monitor encrypted transmissions. That's the whole point of encryption, so no one except authorized users can listen.

Before you go spending good money on a digital scanner, there are two very important things you need to understand:

1 - As already stated, no scanner can monitor encryption.

2 - Nearly every talkgroup on the Nassau County PD P25 digital system is encrypted.

Translation: If you're thinking of spending $400+ on a digital scanner just to listen to the Nassau County PD system, forget about it. You won't hear much, if anything.
 

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I have both the 996XT and the HP-1. Most of my monitoring is of a P-25 700 MHz MOT system. I use both 24/7 on a PC to log. I log the 996XT under PROSCAN v 5.2 and the HP-1 under ARCPATROL running both as 'virtual scanners' under computer control. (however, I actually program the 996XT with ARC-XT PRO I just prefer the graphic display of Proscan).

I don't see much difference between the two scanners in their P-25 decode error rates, I am less than 5 miles from a transmit site and don't suffer from multipath. I am using both on external antennas.

I do have the EE on the HP-1 and as far as I know the ability of the HP-1 to analyze trunking systems far exceeds that of the 996XT unless you are also running some additional software such as unitrunker.

The Uniden mirror site of rr.com is 'massaged' to supress types of modulation which the HP-1 is not capable of decoding such as any ENC, d-star, provoice, opensky, P-25 phase 2 ,TETRA, etc.

You can of course load anything you wish into the 996XT whether it can actually 'read' those channels or not.

Both are fine scanners and I am happy with them. [I actually have a second HP-1 for 'listening' instead of research and another 996 in my auto also just for listening]
 

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I have both the 996XT and the HP-1. Most of my monitoring is of a P-25 700 MHz MOT system. I use both 24/7 on a PC to log. I log the 996XT under PROSCAN v 5.2 and the HP-1 under ARCPATROL running both as 'virtual scanners' under computer control. (however, I actually program the 996XT with ARC-XT PRO I just prefer the graphic display of Proscan).

I don't see much difference between the two scanners in their P-25 decode error rates, I am less than 5 miles from a transmit site and don't suffer from multipath. I am using both on external antennas.

I do have the EE on the HP-1 and as far as I know the ability of the HP-1 to analyze trunking systems far exceeds that of the 996XT unless you are also running some additional software such as unitrunker.

The Uniden mirror site of rr.com is 'massaged' to supress types of modulation which the HP-1 is not capable of decoding such as any ENC, d-star, provoice, opensky, P-25 phase 2 ,TETRA, etc.

You can of course load anything you wish into the 996XT whether it can actually 'read' those channels or not.

Both are fine scanners and I am happy with them. [I actually have a second HP-1 for 'listening' instead of research and another 996 in my auto also just for listening]

Very good info. Thanks
 
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