blue5011
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Actually, I scan statewide trunked systems with my 436 on a regular basis. You're mostly wrong.
Every talkgroup is not broadcast on every system site
You do not understand the MN ARMER system.
Actually, I scan statewide trunked systems with my 436 on a regular basis. You're mostly wrong.
Every talkgroup is not broadcast on every system site
JonWienke has it right. A conversation will only be carried on the towers in which there are radios affiliated with it. Some wide area systems (Like ARMER) may ALLOW all units to use all towers while other similar systems (SC21 in Illinois for example) may restrict the user to the sites they are specifically authorized for.
Regardless, only sites with affiliated radios will actually transmit the conversations.
Why don't you submit the info to the administrators and then it will be correct?? How many times have I read post where folks are saying info in the database is incorrect?? If you submit it, then maybe some of the errors could be fixed. This database is maintained solely by info that users submit. I regularly check on agencies in my area and submit incorrect info that I find as more and more agencies are switching to statewide or regional trunked systems. I think it would be nice if there was a tag for Deprecated systems that may technically still be active but are seldom if ever used. There are a number of VHF frequencies still on the air in my area. Still hear the repeater ID all the time. However, NO vhf radio in agency vehicles. So a deprecated tag would allow systems still technically on the air, but not being used, to not be loaded into various scanlist (Fire dispatch, Law dispatch, etc) that the newer scanners that use the RR database.
But from what I have seen of an Sentenil-based scanner (Home Patrol), it stops needlessly on everything.
I do not want a scanner stopping on some god-forsakan DOT channel arbitrarily because "it" thinks I want to hear it.
could it be changed to FM as well so we can use it in Europe as well..
You have made it clear you don't even own a database-based scanner that uses Sentinel
Incorrect.Correct.
I have three Uniden BCD996XT scanners and one BCD396XT scanner. One the 996XT's which I have use is used for logging radio traffic, 24/7 at my home, by way of "Freescan".
I have tried helping three other indiviuals near me who have Home Patrol scanners "adjust" what they are hearing thru the Sentinel program. In my opinion, "Sentinel" is very difficult to work with. As an example, it puts my County, Fire, EMS, and City radio talkgroups under a separate entry completely, even though all are dispatched from the same County 911 dispatcher.
But for the Minnesota ARMER system (statewide-mandated), Sentinel is waaay to complicated. If you use the "zipcode" method, there are four different "files" of talkgroups. One for the city, one for the county, one for the state patrol, and another for fire/ EMS. That is alot of needless scanning going on..., plus there will be entities which I have no interest in listening to being received as well.
As far as my "Comments about software or radios you are not sufficiently familiar with are unhelpful to others", I am merely sharing my opinion.
I can't really think of a situation where I would use the zip code method to create a custom Favorites List in Sentinel. Not sure what you mean by "four different files of talkgroups."
As to other entities being put into the FL, that won't happen when Sentinel is used optimally. Basically pick the channels you are interested in and add only those to the FL. Channels that belong to the same trunked system will be scanned one time per pass (all TGID's of interest are checked during that one pass).
I would really have to agree that you are not very familiar with Sentinel or HPDB based scanners.
No.
Talkgroups are never scanned in trunked systems. The only things scanned in a trunked system are sites. Talkgroups are just database entries the scanner uses to define and categorize traffic it hears, to give a user-friendly label to the talkgroup ID and determine whether it fits the criteria you've specified to define what you hear. Talkgroups are grouped into Departments based on geographic and other commonalities to make labeling more logical and to enable Location Control to work properly. You can have 5000 talkgroups defined for a System and it will scan at the same speed as a system with 50 talkgroups, as long as both systems have the same number of sites within monitoring range.
Having separate Departments for city, county, and state agencies is necessary, because they have different service areas, and Location Control would not work properly if the Department service area didn't match the service area of the talkgroups contained within the Department.
Actually, you're sharing misinformation and bad advice based on your ignorance of scanning and scanners and the software used to program them. You're criticizing some of the core design elements required to make some of the most innovative and useful features of the newest scanners work properly, which is roughly analogous to criticizing an automobile because it doesn't have the kind of harness and buggy whip you like.
Um if anyone would know how it is arranged on A HP type scanner it would be him.Obviously you are not familiar w/ the Minnesota ARMER system and how it is arranged on a Home Patrol-type scanner.