BLM-California Desert District

[silverspy]

Does anyone have intel on the status of the BLM California Desert District Nets? Every source that I’ve seen has Fire Net as 166.4875 and Admin Net 166.375. The reason that I’m asking is that, in every other BLM net in California, the frequencies have been changed to comply with the 2019 output high/input low “rule”. The California Desert District Nets seem to be the only ones (BLM,USFS,NPS) that don’t comply with this “rule”. So my question is, does anyone know if there have been frequency changes to these Nets, or if there will be in the near future?

 

[EliVonChonk]

My records show Fire Net as 166.4875 and Admin Net as 172.6125

 

[f40ph]

CDD is still Admin 166.375 and Fire net (not used currently) is 166.4875
Nothing has been given to cooperating agencies regarding any future frequency changes. They have advised they will be expanding their fire net in the next year or two.

Pretty much everything occurs on Admin in SoCal.

 

[EliVonChonk]

CDD is still Admin 166.375 and Fire net (not used currently) is 166.4875
Nothing has been given to cooperating agencies regarding any future frequency changes. They have advised they will be expanding their fire net in the next year or two.

Pretty much everything occurs on Admin in SoCal.

Can you cite your source for this? If this is correct, I need to change our Comm plans...

 

[f40ph]

The frequency matches what's already been in the database for BLM/CDD on RR.

Bureau of Land Management (California) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Bureau of Land Management (California)

www.radioreference.com

Verified by a codeplug read from a current radio used by a city FD in San Bernardino County.

Listening to fires dispatched in San Bernardino County, they verbally state "CDD admin net" as command channel for every BLM and NPS wildland incident.

 

[Paysonscanner]

CDD is still Admin 166.375 and Fire net (not used currently) is 166.4875
Nothing has been given to cooperating agencies regarding any future frequency changes. They have advised they will be expanding their fire net in the next year or two.

Pretty much everything occurs on Admin in SoCal.

I don't have the page in front of me from my late hubby's notebooks, however, I remember this summer reading that the "fire net" frequency of 166.4875 was only installed in 2-3 repeater sites on the CDD. I think one of those was at Box Springs, which is sorta a low level repeater in western San Bernardino Co. or maybe Riverside Co. Its coverage area was very limited and the BLM doesn't have much land south of the San Gabriel San Bernardino mountain ridges and west of Banning Pass. It didn't make sense that they had a fire net repeater there. I think the BLM land in that area is actually protected by CDF under contract, which was the case for BLM land near where hubby and I lived in the Sierra foothills making this make less sense.

 

[Paysonscanner]

My records show Fire Net as 166.4875 and Admin Net as 172.6125

Where did this info about 172.6125 come from? That means they have brought the CDD admin net up to the NTIA 2019 standards. It is being used in the Northern California District, NOD, for admin right now. Given the separation of CDD with NOD it makes sense to reuse it.

 

[f40ph]

CDD Fire net still exists on the 166.4875 output at Box Springs as well as some other locations. To my understanding, they're building out the system, but haven't tied the repeaters back into dispatch yet. They can be keyed up in the field but FICC can't hear them yet. If they have any plans to change freqs, they really should tell the cooperators because that's who will be on scene first (in the desert) with a report on conditions.

 

[1942LA]

CDD is still Admin 166.375 and Fire net (not used currently) is 166.4875
Nothing has been given to cooperating agencies regarding any future frequency changes. They have advised they will be expanding their fire net in the next year or two.

Pretty much everything occurs on Admin in SoCal.

To Eli, I will second that the above info is correct.

To the OP, as of last month, nothing has been announced regarding frequency changes.

 

[zerg901]

BLM has approx 11 engines and 1 helo on these channels

E3630​	Type 3 4 x 4​	Available​	MORONGO​
E3631​	TYPE 3​	Out of Svc​	Hole in the Wall​
E3632​	TYPE 3​	Out of Svc​	Black Rock​
E3634​	TYPE 3 4 x 4​	Available​	Salt Wells​
E3635​	TYPE 3 4 x 4​	Out of Svc​	Salt Wells​
E3636​	TYPE 3​	Responding​	*CDD-16622: TICK*​
E3637​	TYPE 3 4x4​	On Scene​	*CDD-16168: RO/SAMO OCTOBER 2019 SEVERITY*​
E3638​	TYPE 3 4 x 4​	Out of Svc​	Apple Valley​
E3639​	TYPE 3 4 x 4​	Responding​	*CDD-16622: TICK*​
E3646​	Type 6​	Responding​	*CDD-16622: TICK*​
E3648​	TYPE 6 ENGINE​	Available​	Apple Valley​

per WCCA-FICC 10/25/2019

H554​

Type 2 N262HQ​

Available​

Apple Valley Helibase​

 

[Paysonscanner]

CDD Fire net still exists on the 166.4875 output at Box Springs as well as some other locations. To my understanding, they're building out the system, but haven't tied the repeaters back into dispatch yet. They can be keyed up in the field but FICC can't hear them yet. If they have any plans to change freqs, they really should tell the cooperators because that's who will be on scene first (in the desert) with a report on conditions.

Sorry for the delayed response, nurse and daughter duties are keeping me busy. My memory isn't working very well relative to this radio system. I think the CDD remote base dispatch and the district office uses is located on a mountain whose name includes "San" and then another name. Years ago when hubby and I would camp in the desert south of Death Valley in the winter we picked up a UHF link that connected a remote base on Rogers Peak in Death Valley to this "San xxxxx" peak in one hop. We could program the link and hear this peak over much of the high desert. The down link repeated the up link traffic so we could hear everything going on at Death Valley even in some distant location. This link no longer exists, I'm not sure how the NPS is linking them now. I say this as I think CDD uses this as a remote base, at least for the northern portion of the district. I'm not sure if this remote base covers repeaters in the south (Riverside and Imperial Counties). I'm sure I could find out more by digging through hubby's notes, but the care of my parents who are in their 90's and maintaining the house are the priorities.

 

[techman210]

A bunch of the UHF links disappeared years ago in Southern California in favor of hilltop VHF remote sites.

if anyone has heard anything recently on UHF, please post.

 

[Paysonscanner]

BLM has approx 11 engines and 1 helo on these channels

E3630​	Type 3 4 x 4​	Available​	MORONGO​
E3631​	TYPE 3​	Out of Svc​	Hole in the Wall​
E3632​	TYPE 3​	Out of Svc​	Black Rock​
E3634​	TYPE 3 4 x 4​	Available​	Salt Wells​
E3635​	TYPE 3 4 x 4​	Out of Svc​	Salt Wells​
E3636​	TYPE 3​	Responding​	*CDD-16622: TICK*​
E3637​	TYPE 3 4x4​	On Scene​	*CDD-16168: RO/SAMO OCTOBER 2019 SEVERITY*​
E3638​	TYPE 3 4 x 4​	Out of Svc​	Apple Valley​
E3639​	TYPE 3 4 x 4​	Responding​	*CDD-16622: TICK*​
E3646​	Type 6​	Responding​	*CDD-16622: TICK*​
E3648​	TYPE 6 ENGINE​	Available​	Apple Valley​

per WCCA-FICC 10/25/2019

H554​

Type 2 N262HQ​

Available​

Apple Valley Helibase​

Good info! I checked into the Inyo NF Wildweb site this summer while I was in Mammoth fixing up a home for sale. I think E3636 or E3634 used to be stationed at Olancha, but this summer I never saw them listed there. By now I think a lot of engines are not staffed for the winter.

 

[silverspy]

Is the peak you were mentioning possibly San Sevaine Peak?

 

[Paysonscanner]

Is the peak you were mentioning possibly San Sevaine Peak?

That's it!!