Bucks Co New Hope area

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MARTY187

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I am from Northeast NJ but a friend moved to New Hope PA and I am attempting to advise them on best frequencies for that area. Some research I have done indicates the Bucks Co Public Safety Radio Network would be in use, with Police Zone 6 for the New Hope area? Does the Fire Dept use this system as well?

Anyone that can advise or point me in the right direction for information in this area, thank you in advance.
 

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There are only nine dispatch zones on the current system. It appears Bucks did away with the Zone 10 and Zone 11 names and now just refer to them as Zone 6 and 7, unless the database info that was submitted during the changeover is wrong. The wiki map is one I made years ago with the 500MHz system to help visualize the dispatch areas, so the names used on there are what was used on the old system.

Either way, the dispatch talkgroup is the one listed as Zone 6 in the database, even if the Zone 11 name is still used on paper.
 

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There are only nine dispatch zones on the current system. It appears Bucks did away with the Zone 10 and Zone 11 names and now just refer to them as Zone 6 and 7, unless the database info that was submitted during the changeover is wrong. The wiki map is one I made years ago with the 500MHz system to help visualize the dispatch areas, so the names used on there are what was used on the old system.

Either way, the dispatch talkgroup is the one listed as Zone 6 in the database, even if the Zone 11 name is still used on paper.

But, New Hope PD is listed here in Zone 7, not 6.
https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Bucks_County_(PA)

So, I think Zone 7 is what the OP is looking for.
 

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You're right. That break up looks a lot different than it used to. Seems like Northwest and Northeast would make more sense as descriptors now vs. Doylestown and Quakertown areas like it says in the DB. I did not realize things were realigned like that.

Couldn't agree more. Those descriptions are a bit odd. Anyway, hopefully the OP has what he needs now.
 

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Somebody is messing around with the Bucks wiki page as the police zones have changed several times over the last several days. Sigh.
 

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Okay, so the information on the wiki page has been getting changed and two different versions of PD 6 / PD 7 territories have been listed. These two maps represent what has shown up recently. So, which one is currently correct, if either? The vertical split between the two (left) or the horizontal split (right)? Someone who monitors those zones regularly should be able to set this straight. I don't know what the wiki changes are being based on or why the listings have been changed several times recently.
 
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Doesn't the system log who makes changes to the wiki? Seems like that would be a good idea to protect integrity.

I have only Zone 9 in my Unication G4 so I can't be of much help right now with who really uses Zones 6 & 7. However, I believe the one on the right is more likely to be correct. It also matches the table here...
https://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Bucks_County_(PA)
Good luck.
 

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Ceavers30 is the account listed as making the changes in the wiki. The police table, in particular, has been changed several times. Looking at the history of the changes is how I made the two maps. One day that you referenced the wiki, New Hope was in Zone 7...another day, it was listed in Zone 6.
From when I worked up that way, I remember New Hope being in Zone 6 with Doylestown. But, it has been a while since I regularly spent time up that way.
 

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I only listen occasionally to that area but since the Inception of the new P2 system right from the get-go and testing, New Hope Borough should be on zone 6 along with Solebury Township. If they made a change I'm sure we would all know about it. Can this member be contacted? It really hurts the Integrity of the Wiki page.
 

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So the map up top with the vertical split is geographically correct, but Zone 6 and 7 are switched. Zone 6 is East of Zone 7 and New Hope operates on Zone 6
 

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So the map up top with the vertical split is geographically correct, but Zone 6 and 7 are switched. Zone 6 is East of Zone 7 and New Hope operates on Zone 6

So, Doylestown and Quakertown are on the same zone now? Zone 6 is the northeast river corridor area and 7 is the northwest area.
 

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I only listen occasionally to that area but since the Inception of the new P2 system right from the get-go and testing, New Hope Borough should be on zone 6 along with Solebury Township. If they made a change I'm sure we would all know about it. Can this member be contacted? It really hurts the Integrity of the Wiki page.

someone could ask the editor "what's up?"
https://forums.radioreference.com/members/ceavers30
Profile says he's a Volunteer Firefighter. :unsure:
 

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Quakertown is on Zone 7 and Doylestown is on Zone 6. But yes Zone 6 is the river corridor north of Yardley and Makefield, and Zone 7 are the towns closer to the Montgomery County border. I've been listening to this area for a few years now (since the new 700 system) and there really havent been many changes.
 

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Quakertown is on Zone 7 and Doylestown is on Zone 6. But yes Zone 6 is the river corridor north of Yardley and Makefield, and Zone 7 are the towns closer to the Montgomery County border. I've been listening to this area for a few years now (since the new 700 system) and there really havent been many changes.

Okay, if New Hope and Doylestown are still on the same zone, and that zone is 6, then the map with the horizontal dividing line between Plumstead and Bedminster is correct, not the vertical one as you mentioned earlier. You guys are gonna make me reprogram my G5 and spend time listening if we don't get this straight. ;) With the exception of Tinicum, everything else along the river north of New Hope/Solebury is PSP covered and so you wouldn't hear anything. Most of the local PD's operating on Zone 7 would be in the western half of that zone.
 

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Hi Marty187 - I can confirm that New Hope Police (49 series units) are indeed on Zone-6. In addition, Solebury Police (65 series units) are also on Zone-6. (Solebury Township surrounds New Hope.) All Zone-6 comms are phase-2 and are NOT encrypted. All police zones in Bucks have an additional talkgroup available for that zone that is encrypted and is only used for critical incidents by local police. There are several encrypted talkgroups on the system that are for use by agencies/operations that are sensitive (Detectives, SWAT, etc..)

The Eagle Fire Co is in on the Central fire Band and covers all of New Hope Borough. All dispatches are on 155.55 with a PL of 123.0. They also cover a significant portion of Solebury Township. Keep in mind that Eagle uses the county 700 Mhz simplex fireground channel for all onsite fireground comms, and Central Band for response and comms with Bucks County. There is also a UHF conventional repeater that is used for special events and internal coordination. (Many fire companies in Bucks have these 'local' conventional repeaters such as this.)

Eagle is located right between the North and the East fire band zones. Calls into those areas are responded to on those bands and it is announced on dispatch that operations will be on them.

Eagle also responds into Huntrerdon County for Level-2 and above calls in Lambertville. In addition, Tanker-46 is a part of the Hunterdon County 'South Tanker Task Force' and responds deep into Hunterdon on those calls. For Hunterdon calls, they are still dispatched by Bucks, respond on Bucks Central Band, but then switch to Hunterdon County UHF fire channels. For Lambertville calls, we switch to the F-2 repeaters for response and use F-8 simplex for fireground. The Tanker Task Force assignments operate on Hunterdon F-12 or 13 typically. All Eagle mobile and portable radios are dual band for operation on the Bucks 700 system, as well as on the Hunterdon 450 channels.

Lastly, Eagle also has a marine rescue unit and is periodically called out onto the Delaware river for rescues or recoveries. This is also dispatched by Bucks County on 155.55, response on Central Band, and then typically a switch to one of the County System TAC talkgroups on the system that County assigns. The reason for this is that marine rescue calls typically will include other juridictions and Bucks will put a patch in place between the various responders to insure somewhat smooth coordination. The Marine air boat radio is all-band capable and can coordinate directly with all other agencies up and down the river.

Please feel free to drop a private message to me with contact info for your friend and I'd be happy to give him a tour of the main fire station and fill him in with any added details he may be interested in.
 

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The Police Zone map on the right side is current as best as I can tell from monitoring. Zone-6 extends from the river to the Montgomery county line and pretty much follows US Route 202 (with the exception of also having Plumstead Township in Zone-6 too).

The map on the left is definitely not correct for New Hope/Solebury, or at least not in well over 10 years.
 

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Thank you again for all the replies and good information! Great to be able to get expert opinions away from where I live.
 
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