Buyer beware of EBay sale: "Harris Falcon III RF-900P"

[Teotwaki]

Harris Newbies. It's just a green case installed on a run of the mill XG-100P and priced ridiculously high. At first he had no caveats and eventually made only minor changes to the listing rather than be forthcoming about what he's selling.

MINT CONDITION Harris Falcon III RF-900P Tactical (Unity XG-100P) Radio Package | eBay

Buy now to secure your very own RARE piece of military communications history! - (1) NEW Harris 9" "full spectrum" antenna. - (1) NEW Harris belt clip. - (1) NEW Harris Side connector cover. The included spec sheet for the RF900 is only included for informational purposes.

www.ebay.com

"MINT CONDITION Harris Falcon III RF-900P Tactical (Unity XG-100P) Radio Package"​

"This listing is for an exceptionally rare "Falcon III RF-900P" variant of the Harris Unity XG-100P/XP-100F-IS Intrinsically Safe portable two-way radio. The RF-900P was in the process of being developed based on the Unity portable platform for the Department of Defense before the platform was mothballed. A select few model units were created during the development process. Buy now to secure your very own RARE piece of military communications history!"

WAAAAAAY at the bottom is" "PLEASE NOTE: This unit is functionally identical to a standard Harris XG-100P, but with the updated aesthetic of the RF-900P olive drab green case. The included spec sheet for the RF900 is only included for informational purposes."

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

It won't do the VULOS 16 kbps CVSD. I am out.....

 

[redbeard]

Solid seller and the full description noting that it indeed is only a recased 100P was there from day 1.

The cases are legit factory cases produced for the RF-900 and as stated the development was halted. The radio itself is an intrinsically safe model and final hardware revision making it an exception specimen.

It's a shame that the 16k VULOS firmware never leaked from the project but that really is the only difference between what would have been and what is.

Those in the know probably won't pay that price, but there are people who will and it's their money to spend. The fact remains the olive drab and black housings are a rare piece of history and still command a premium. Given the skill involved with the swap this is an option for someone who wants a full-featured radio without the hassle of building it themself.

And it's still cheaper than most run of the mill APX 8000s everyone loves paying 4k+ for.

 

[MTS2000des]

I am sure this makes the Molle carrier, camo wearing, paint ball prepper whackers weak in the knees. Don't see anything shady, seller states exactly what one is getting. They are just trying to cash in on the MilitaryWhacker's dream radio.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Found a cool way to pump up my E-Bay radio sales!

 

[gtaman]

Yes it’s a XG-100.

Factory green RF-900 case.

It’s a joke but also serious.

I know the seller.

 

[gtaman]

It won't do the VULOS 16 kbps CVSD. I am out.....

It’s fun. Especially using AES CVSD.

 

[Teotwaki]

I don't know the guy other than his listing and how he is pitching a commercial XP-100F as some unobtainable Harris Falcon III. If the "solid seller" titled the sale as: "XP-100F commercial radio professionally repackaged in a rare green plastic case from an unobtainable military prototype Falcon III series" ..... that would be long but pretty honest.

Instead the title leads off with "MINT CONDITION Harris Falcon III RF-900P Tactical" in the same manner the Chinese hawk fake US military PRC-152 radios.

Just look at the main description which literally states the listing _is_ for the "exceptionally rare Falcon III RF-900P variant" when it is not one of those. Then it furthers the deception by implying you are purchasing one of "A select few model units (were) created during the development process". Except this radio never rolled out of a Falcon III RF-900P build process, right? Is a "updated aesthetic of the RF-900P olive drab green case" in any way a Falcon III RF-900P" variant produced by Harris? No. Way better than a Baofeng in the "updated aesthetic" of a PRC-152 olive drab green case? Absolutely. Still, why justify things because only the dumb Molle carrier, camo wearing, paint ball prepper whackers can't navigate a word salad of a few real and quite a few misleading terms?

The muddled disclaimer is at the absolute bottom of the listing. How is that the approach of a solid seller? LARPers are in a special class of doofus but still, the listing's description could have begun with:

"This unit's internal electronics are from a commercial Harris XP-100F and this radio is NOT a Harris Falcon III RF-900P Tactical radio. It just looks like one because we carefully installed the electronics in a new and rare green case and that is super cool! That military green radio look will make you the king of your fellow LARPers and provide to only you an advanced multiband radio to run circles around the Baofeng crap".

 

[prcguy]

I don't know the guy other than his listing and how he is pitching a commercial XP-100F as some unobtainable Harris Falcon III. If the "solid seller" titled the sale as: "XP-100F commercial radio professionally repackaged in a rare green plastic case from an unobtainable military prototype Falcon III series" ..... that would be long but pretty honest.

Instead the title leads off with "MINT CONDITION Harris Falcon III RF-900P Tactical" in the same manner the Chinese hawk fake US military PRC-152 radios.

Just look at the main description which literally states the listing _is_ for the "exceptionally rare Falcon III RF-900P variant" when it is not one of those. Then it furthers the deception by implying you are purchasing one of "A select few model units (were) created during the development process". Except this radio never rolled out of a Falcon III RF-900P build process, right? Is a "updated aesthetic of the RF-900P olive drab green case" in any way a Falcon III RF-900P" variant produced by Harris? No. Way better than a Baofeng in the "updated aesthetic" of a PRC-152 olive drab green case? Absolutely. Still, why justify things because only the dumb Molle carrier, camo wearing, paint ball prepper whackers can't navigate a word salad of a few real and quite a few misleading terms?

The muddled disclaimer is at the absolute bottom of the listing. How is that the approach of a solid seller? LARPers are in a special class of doofus but still, the listing's description could have begun with:

"This unit's internal electronics are from a commercial Harris XP-100F and this radio is NOT a Harris Falcon III RF-900P Tactical radio. It just looks like one because we carefully installed the electronics in a new and rare green case and that is super cool! That military green radio look will make you the king of your fellow LARPers and provide to only you an advanced multiband radio to run circles around the Baofeng crap".

An actual Harris RF-900P would be worth the asking price and I have not found anyone who has ever seen one. There are a small number of new/surplus green RF-900P type housings out there for sale and you can put together the same thing in the eBay ad for a lot less $$. Although you need the stickers and preferably a new set of knobs. Not to mention the b@lls needed to rip the radio apart and swap cases.

 

[Teotwaki]

An actual Harris RF-900P would be worth the asking price and I have not found anyone who has ever seen one. There are a small number of new/surplus green RF-900P type housings out there for sale and you can put together the same thing in the eBay ad for a lot less $$. Although you need the stickers and preferably a new set of knobs. Not to mention the b@lls needed to rip the radio apart and swap cases.

Honestly, that's where I admire the seller "..... the b@lls needed to rip the radio apart and swap cases".

 

[gtaman]

There is a decent number of the green cases. At least 50 of them.


They are turds to recase. I can do one in about 25 minutes. Don’t forget all your gaskets and retape those flex cables.

You should see the prototype XG-100. Hot mess

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Why would anyone buy a misrepresented Harris XG/XP-100F for $3000 when they have all these choices for a fraction of the cost? Seriously? You can even buy new for less than $3K

Harris Xp-100f for sale | eBay

Get the best deals for Harris Xp-100f at eBay.com. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items!

www.ebay.com

 

[prcguy]

There is a decent number of the green cases. At least 50 of them.


They are turds to recase. I can do one in about 25 minutes. Don’t forget all your gaskets and retape those flex cables.

You should see the prototype XG-100. Hot mess


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I though there was about half that number of green cases out there.

 

[gtaman]

LARPer with daddy’s money.


Seriously people pay stupid prices for things just because.

Guns
Bourbon
Radios
Cars

You name it.

 

[Teotwaki]

Why would anyone buy a misrepresented Harris XP-100F for $3000 when they have all these choices for a fraction of the cost? Seriously?

Harris Xp-100f for sale | eBay

Get the best deals for Harris Xp-100f at eBay.com. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items!

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You know that once some foolish LARPer buys the thing they will be all over this forum with dumb questions. Sort of like I was with my first Harris radio, LOL.

I need to get back to figuring out why my mobile radio died. So far the evidence points to some sort of voltage regulator failure under that big RF shield box on the PA board. I have no tools for and zero experience at removing such shields but it's not rocket science. I know what rocket science looks like

 

[Teotwaki]

There is a decent number of the green cases. At least 50 of them.


They are turds to recase. I can do one in about 25 minutes. Don’t forget all your gaskets and retape those flex cables.

You should see the prototype XG-100. Hot mess


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That thing is Hammmm-Sexy!

 

[gtaman]

I though there was about half that number of green cases out there.

Rumor was about 50. I’ve seen maybe 20 of them.

Don’t forget about the black cases. About 200 of them exist.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

You know that once some foolish LARPer buys the thing they will be all over this forum with dumb questions. Sort of like I was with my first Harris radio, LOL.

I need to get back to figuring out why my mobile radio died. So far the evidence points to some sort of voltage regulator failure under that big RF shield box on the PA board. I have no tools for and zero experience at removing such shields but it's not rocket science. I know what rocket science looks like

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An XG-100M? Hopefully you will figure it out without a soldering iron. I am tempted to join that cult. But I have too many radios right now and too little time.

 

[G6FGO]

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Found a cool way to pump up my E-Bay radio sales!

Recently, I went everywhere looking for camouflage paint, but I couldn't see it anywhere. ;-)

 

[MTS2000des]

I don't know the guy other than his listing and how he is pitching a commercial XP-100F as some unobtainable Harris Falcon III. If the "solid seller" titled the sale as: "XP-100F commercial radio professionally repackaged in a rare green plastic case from an unobtainable military prototype Falcon III series" ..... that would be long but pretty honest.

Instead the title leads off with "MINT CONDITION Harris Falcon III RF-900P Tactical" in the same manner the Chinese hawk fake US military PRC-152 radios.

Just look at the main description which literally states the listing _is_ for the "exceptionally rare Falcon III RF-900P variant" when it is not one of those. Then it furthers the deception by implying you are purchasing one of "A select few model units (were) created during the development process". Except this radio never rolled out of a Falcon III RF-900P build process, right? Is a "updated aesthetic of the RF-900P olive drab green case" in any way a Falcon III RF-900P" variant produced by Harris? No. Way better than a Baofeng in the "updated aesthetic" of a PRC-152 olive drab green case? Absolutely. Still, why justify things because only the dumb Molle carrier, camo wearing, paint ball prepper whackers can't navigate a word salad of a few real and quite a few misleading terms?

The muddled disclaimer is at the absolute bottom of the listing. How is that the approach of a solid seller? LARPers are in a special class of doofus but still, the listing's description could have begun with:

"This unit's internal electronics are from a commercial Harris XP-100F and this radio is NOT a Harris Falcon III RF-900P Tactical radio. It just looks like one because we carefully installed the electronics in a new and rare green case and that is super cool! That military green radio look will make you the king of your fellow LARPers and provide to only you an advanced multiband radio to run circles around the Baofeng crap".

It's no different than the many Ebay sellers peddling questionable APX8000s in SRX housings, they know their target miliwhacker market. I don't see it as misleading. Someone who wants the real thing isn't going to Ebay to get it.

If someone wants to ask $6000 for a parts built APX8000 with Home Depot rammed flash code, good luck with that. So long as they aren't advertising it as genuine, who cares. One can always use the "report item" button if it bothers one that much, not that anything will happen but if that one helps one sleep at night.

I wouldn't pay $300 for an XG100. It's unsupported by L3H, the size of a Buick, and known to fail sooner than later. If some Molle carrier fetish LARPer whacker will cough up 3 grand, good old American capitalism. Quit hating.