ok im in elcajon. i can hardley here cdf when/if they come up at all. like right now there is a fire near lake jennings not 10 miles from me and i have not had any cdf channels i hear the hartland fire and mvu talkgroups but no conventional cdf. and this goes whether theres a working incident or not i never hear the mvu conv. i have had 151.1900 pop up extremly staticy and air to ground has come up with static as well. i never did anything regarding pl tones or anything like that just put in the frequencies. does any one here in san diego have a file for the 396xt that i can have. im not understanding the pl tone programming.
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ScannerDude244
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It's USFS fire CNF
i have the factory uniden antenna that comes with 396xt and i have the radio shack 800mhz antenna also. is there another that would work better for conv. i talked to a guy at ham radio outlet who said the 800 band will work on almost any antenna. so i guess i wouuld like to find one for conventional.
still not hearing a thing even on the chariot fire that is less than 20 miles from me any help. does not having the pl tone in there change anything. and is there any setting to change. i just put them in like i would any old scanner should i have included the pl tones or set them to ctcss or? im lost and would love to hear the chariot fire since its could be on a path to my house
JoeyC
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As of 6 days ago you were using a less-than-optimal antenna and it was suggested you needed a better antenna. If you are still using the same antenna setup you can expect no change as far as that goes. Actually, the older a wildland fire incident gets, the less radio traffic you are likely to hear and most likely, what is happening is simplex. With your poor antenna and 20 miles distance, it is unlikely you will hear anything, except maybe occasional aircraft in the air.
Also, one chooses an antenna to match the frequency band he is interested in listening to, not whether conventional or trunked.
Also, one chooses an antenna to match the frequency band he is interested in listening to, not whether conventional or trunked.
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Well, on VHF the incident is using low power command repeaters and the fire line activity is 5 watt handheld radios on simplex channels; a great part of the fire line is on the east side of the ridge line east of Sunrise Highway, with no viability back into the metropolitan San Diego area. I doubt that you will hear much in El Cajon; I'm hearing very little in Clairemont Mesa.
First off I did change my antenna as of 6 days ago. i asked what antenna would be a better option. No answer. So i just switched to my radio shack antenna andt i didnt do anything im not an idiot if someone says its your antenna then i would expect change without xhanging the antenna. You could have nicer about it and said there using a simplex so unless your within line of sight it wont work. And also i pick up chp san diwgo xonventional just fine so no the factory antenna doeant just pick up aircraft.and by the way i also know the antenna doesnt matter between tru k and conv. but i alao know that the 800 trunk in san diego is so strong that i dont even need an antenna so i would like to get one geared toward conv. Thats why i was asking what a better option would be excuse my spelling im on my phone
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Our crews headed down there were advised to make contact on "XSD Command 1" (see database)
Do you have that one programmed?
Do you have that one programmed?
XSD? No im sure i dont ive never heard of xsd before what agencie is that.i will look thru the database and try to find it
XSD is not an actual department.
It is the 3-letter ID for the San Diego County Operational Area. State OES has basically designated each county with an "X" identifier. LA County has multiple ones, XBO is San Bernardino County, XRI is Riverside Co, etc.
Look in the Radioreference database under San Diego County. Scroll down to "Wildland Fire Operations".
It is the 3-letter ID for the San Diego County Operational Area. State OES has basically designated each county with an "X" identifier. LA County has multiple ones, XBO is San Bernardino County, XRI is Riverside Co, etc.
Look in the Radioreference database under San Diego County. Scroll down to "Wildland Fire Operations".
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carlt
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I have heard them using all of the following
XSD CMD1
XSD TAC 1
on RCS
4L travel
Incident CMD 7
XSD CMD1
XSD TAC 1
on RCS
4L travel
Incident CMD 7
alright well last night i went thru and found the pl tones for all the calfire cmd and tac channels. and also found the xsd cmd and tac under wildland. and i heard mvu disp 151.1900 clearly yesterday. it still seems pretty dead. and that is a el cajon dispatch so i would yhink it should be stronger but atleast im hearing it. and i had another pop up but i didnt catch what frequency it was. its wierd though cause even there talkgroups come in staticy at times under the trunked system but its alot better than it was so thank you for the added info.
I suggest you look at the various discussions here in the forums about the RCS. You will see that different talkgroups are allowed in different areas of the county (as an example, Sheriff's Rural Dispatch operates in the East and Northeast cells, but not the South Cell (which covers El Cajon). You will also find that RCS cells do not carry a transmission unless there is a RCS user logged into that cell to hear the radio traffic, which is why you may hear one call just fine, but not hear traffic on that talkgroup (or receive it very weak) 20 minutes later. A third factor is the individual frequency being used to carry that call; if there is something (most often a Sprint or AT&T cell site) close to you the transmission from the cell site can overload your scanner's receiver, making the RCS transmission unintelligible (That happens to the professionals, also).
151.19 comes in pretty weak for me in the metro San Diego area. I was going to a brush fire out east and was locked onto 151.19 on the I-8 at the SR67 with my 396XT and stock antenna, and it was mostly static.
carlt
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CalFIRE really "borrows" units from where ever they can for our "fire weather" days. This morning I saw 6, (with maybe more following), rigs going north on 125 to the 52, presumably continuing north. All had 44## numbering, so they must have been returning home to Tuolomne/Calaveras. That must be a "fun" ride in a fire rig!!
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