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Considering I'm surrounded by state parks here in Newhall I monitor CSP as often as I monitor county fire and sheriff. Lately I've been noticing on Jade they have been calling it 'Torrey' - a quick Google search finds a nature preserve near San Diego by this name but no nearby mountains or peaks. Are any of you familiar with the 'Torrey' reference?
 

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Considering I'm surrounded by state parks here in Newhall I monitor CSP as often as I monitor county fire and sheriff. Lately I've been noticing on Jade they have been calling it 'Torrey' - a quick Google search finds a nature preserve near San Diego by this name but no nearby mountains or peaks. Are any of you familiar with the 'Torrey' reference?

What state parks surround Newhall? The only one that I'm aware of is Placerita Canyon and it is run by the county. Castaic Lake is also run by the county. The next nearest is the Hungry Valley OHV area north of Gorman. The parks in vicinity of your location are in the Angeles District, not to be confused with the Angeles National Forest.

I would imagine it is tough to receive much in the way of state park repeaters due to topography. My notes show that the San Diego District does not use Jade and the only repeater sites used by the San Diego District that you might receive, and this is highly doubtful, are those located on Jack's Peak on Catalina Island.

I searched licenses for 868.5625 MHz in southern California and did not come up with anything up your way. There are about 1/2 dozen in the Angeles District, but none of them are within what I would think your reception area is. I also looked at my state wide printout of State Park repeaters and did not find Torrey listed.

After considering the above and the comment of rickyrsq34 above, I took a look at the state's communication site map and there is a West Torrey Hill due south of Piru on Oak Ridge. The site is primarily a CHP site but other agencies are there, most notably Ventura County and the Los Padres National Forest. Although there isn't a license for Jade located there it would be logical that you would hear it from Newhall. I think the Santa Clara River canyon provides an opening for you to be able to receive it.

If you listen carefully you will hear the name "Torrey" used as the site a unit, park or Surcomm uses to call another unit or location. You would hear "826, Surcomm, Torrey" or "Surcomm, 241 on Torrey." When I used to stay at my mother's in the LAX area I would hear traffic similar to "Surcomm, 805, Baldwin." There is a repeater on Jade in the Baldwin Hills north of Inglewood. This is standard practice State Parks procedure statewide and is also that of federal natural resource agencies. On a Forest Service frequency you would hear something like "Los Padres, Patrol 71, Tone 6." Tone 6 corresponds to Torrey Hill. I believe the traffic you are hearing involves Santa Susana Pass State Historic Park.

I think this solves your mystery.

*EDIT* I was preparing this post at the time you last posted.
 
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Castaic Lake State Rec Area
Fort Tejon State Historic Park
Hungry Valley State Vehicle Rec Area
Placerita Canyon State Park

All within radio range of Newhall and are operated by Cal State Parks and have rangers on site. Most traffic is 800 MHz simplex unless units need to contact dispatch.

California Dept of Fish and Wildlife is also patrolling the outskirts of the Santa Clarita Valley full time now. It appears they moved their 151.430 repeater off of Oat Mtn a few months ago and placed it on Sisar, same tone as before but reception is much, much weaker. Per the FCC database they also put up a 151.415 repeater on Sisar, so far no activity heard.

and though its not a state run operation... the Sespe Condor Sanctuary is still active on 163.150 C146.2
 

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Note the thread in the California forum - Hungry Valley's set up on 700 now, apparently in simulcast with their 800 system...
 

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Castaic Lake State Rec Area
Fort Tejon State Historic Park
Hungry Valley State Vehicle Rec Area
Placerita Canyon State Park

All within radio range of Newhall and are operated by Cal State Parks and have rangers on site. Most traffic is 800 MHz simplex unless units need to contact dispatch.

California Dept of Fish and Wildlife is also patrolling the outskirts of the Santa Clarita Valley full time now. It appears they moved their 151.430 repeater off of Oat Mtn a few months ago and placed it on Sisar, same tone as before but reception is much, much weaker. Per the FCC database they also put up a 151.415 repeater on Sisar, so far no activity heard.

and though its not a state run operation... the Sespe Condor Sanctuary is still active on 163.150 C146.2

When I've done license searches for DFW it appears that 151.415 is also licensed at nearly every repeater site. This is true for all the repeaters in the eastern Sierra and I have had in my scanners for years yet have heard nothing. I think licenses for sites where 151.415 is in use, 151.430 is also licensed. In areas where 151.430 is used, the input frequency for 151.415 is used as a tactical.

A multi-year study on mountain lion predation was conducted in the eastern Sierra for about 10 years. A lot of traffic had to be conducted on the 151.430 repeaters, however, as much as possible was carried on the 151.415 input frequency. The amount of traffic was high, but at no time was a 151.415 repeater employed, even though it is licensed on all the sites here.

The Sespe Condor Refuge is managed by the U.S. Forest Service. The 163.150 repeaters are used by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to manage the Hopper Mountain National Wildlife Refuge Complex, with three of the four refuges being closed to the public to allow condors to breed and nest without disturbance. Hopper Mtn. NWR is where the captive breeding program occurs that has brought the condo back from the brink of certain extinction. There are now populations of condors at the Vermillion Cliffs (BLM managed) in northern Arizona and in Grand Canyon National Park, both are portions of the historic range of the condo.

While Placerita is a state park, it is run by the L.A. County Dept. of Parks and Recreation under a coop agreement. State park frequencies are not used to manage this park, L.A. County uses its talkgroups on the L.A. County trunked system.
 
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