Canadian Armed Forces P25 Trunking System

[IdleMonitor]

New talkgroups found today for CFB Garrison Petawawa

10333
10354
10359
10367 Encrypted

 

[IdleMonitor]

Some info on this radio system including the actual name of it.

Pg. 8/15

http://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2015/mdn-dnd/D12-7-18-9-eng.pdf

 

[Jay911]

Wow, and we thought AFRRCS was a "bad" acronym. I can imagine the jokes and ribbing people take with the name of this system...

 

[IdleMonitor]

New talkgroups found this week from Garrison Petawawa

10344 Enc
10345 Enc
10317

10317 Sounded like the MPs. Picked this one up today and it sounded like they were doing some sort of traffic control. I know they were supposed to shut an intersection of Hwy 17 down today at noon for 10 minutes to allow for military vehicles to proceed onto the highway and keep the convoy together, not sure if this was part of it or not.

Although I know it's not a good practice to submit unknown talkgroups to the database, but I've got a bunch of them that are active however unknown at this time. Given the type of system this is, I'd imagine we're gonna be awhile finding out what talkgroups are for what. Was hoping an admin might allow it for this time on this system.

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Public Saftey

10306 MP Training ?
10310 Military Police
10320 Fire Dept.
10326 TG 10326 Unkn FD
10332 TG 10332 Unkn FD
10360 TG 10360 Unkn FD

Public Security

10307 BuildingSecurity
10308 Gate Security

Maintenance

10390 FleetMaintenance
10377 Public Works

Unknown talkgroups.

5000 TG 5000
5003 TG 5003
5026 TG 5026
10303 TG 10303
10317 TG 10317
10333 TG 10333
10344 TG 10344 Enc
10345 TG 10345 Enc
10346 TG 10346
10347 TG 10347
10348 TG 10348
10349 TG 10349 Enc
10354 TG 10354
10359 TG 10359
10363 TG 10363 Enc
10364 TG 10364 Enc
10365 TG 10365 Enc
10367 TG 10367 Enc
10373 TG 10373
10374 TG 10374
10380 TG 10380
10382 Range Common ?
10385 TG 10385
10396 TG 10396

 

[webstar22]

10317 I have comms on this back to Jan of 2016 just listening to them now to figure out what it is. Call signs like Sandman and Viper, TCP Blue,

 

[webstar22]

I have an google drive archive of comms in these unk TG's if anyone wants to hear them to try to ID them.

 

[IdleMonitor]

Not sure if you've seen this before or not, the document is a few years old but it might shed some light on identifying what may or may not be the new Range Safety Net, Range Control, Range Admin Net etc..

There's no mention of the digital system as it wasn't in place yet when this document was done up, but it does mention the VHF-Low and High bands as well as some UHF MilAir and HF stuff.


http://www.cg.cfpsa.ca/cg-pc/Petawawa/EN/RecreationandLeisure/Clubs/Documents/2011RSOS0.pdf

I have an google drive archive of comms in these unk TG's if anyone wants to hear them to try to ID them.

 

[webstar22]

Petawawa 10350 Range Control came online yesterday.

 

[mikewazowski]

I'm guessing that's Range Control Common. Keep an ear out on 10351 and 10359.

 

[webstar22]

I'm guessing that's Range Control Common. Keep an ear out on 10351 and 10359.

10351 today was active. Nothing on 359 yet.

 

[IdleMonitor]

Does this mean the low band VHF are no longer used for Range Control?

Petawawa 10350 Range Control came online yesterday.

 

[IdleMonitor]

I have 10359 as Commissionaires

I'm guessing that's Range Control Common. Keep an ear out on 10351 and 10359.

 

[webstar22]

I will tell you this. They have really bad audio from the range to that new P25 system. I wouldn't be surprised if they have to put up a 2nd tower out there someplace.

 

[mikewazowski]

I have 10359 as Commissionaires

At Borden, the Commissionaires man the radio at Range Control.

 

[IdleMonitor]

I see there's been an update to the database as 10530 Range control. Did someone input this incorrectly and it should be 10350 instead?

Canadian Armed Forces Safety, Emergency and Administrative Radio System (SEARS) Trunking System, Various, Multi-State - Scanner Frequencies

Petawawa 10350 Range Control came online yesterday.

 

[mikewazowski]

Got it. Thanks.

 

[webstar22]

10531 is Range control as well. I think one repalce 48.7000mhz and the other 49.9000 mhz

But today it sounds like they are patching those TG's into those freqs now. Hearing traffic on 10339 doing tests as well today.

 

[mikewazowski]

10531 is Range control as well. I think one repalce 48.7000mhz and the other 49.9000 mhz

10531 or 10351? 10531 would probably be a Borden talkgroup.

 

[webstar22]

10531 or 10351? 10531 would probably be a Borden talkgroup.

my bad 10350 and 10351

 

[mikewazowski]

I think you'll find Range Control has 10350 to 10359. They seem to assign blocks of 10 channels to each group.

Typically you would have Range Common for interop with other departments like MP's, Fire, Forestry, etc, Range Control Ops for their own internal use and then one or more Range Safety Nets.