CB frequency licensed in Amarillo

[Don_Burke]

I was poking around in the ULS as part of an unrelated discussion and stumbled across KRC578 for the City of Amarillo which allows use of 27.235.

That's a CB channel that was a business channel prior to the expansion to 40.

Is Amarillo actually using it?

 

[hiegtx]

I was poking around in the ULS as part of an unrelated discussion and stumbled across KRC578 for the City of Amarillo which allows use of 27.235.

That's a CB channel that was a business channel prior to the expansion to 40.

Is Amarillo actually using it?

No idea if they were. But many cities, counties, and various public safety agencies keep renewing licenses for frequencies that have not been used for years, and more often decades, for Vhf-low channels in the old public safety range in the 30 & 40Mhz ranges.

Like this one:

FCC Callsign KNAK334 (GLENN HEIGHTS, CITY OF)

FCC Callsign KNAK334 (GLENN HEIGHTS, CITY OF)

www.radioreference.com

That license is still active. I doubt that Glenn Heights does not have any radios that could use that band. But, by golly, they got themselves a license to do it.

 

[nd5y]

Glenn Heights not only keeps renewing it they (whatever lawfirm handles their licenses) even narrowbanded half of it (only the base). It would have never originally had 11K2F3E.

 

[Don_Burke]

No idea if they were. But many cities, counties, and various public safety agencies keep renewing licenses for frequencies that have not been used for years, and more often decades, for Vhf-low channels in the old public safety range in the 30 & 40Mhz ranges.

Like this one:

FCC Callsign KNAK334 (GLENN HEIGHTS, CITY OF)

FCC Callsign KNAK334 (GLENN HEIGHTS, CITY OF)

www.radioreference.com

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That license is still active. I doubt that Glenn Heights does not have any radios that could use that band. But, by golly, they got themselves a license to do it.

It's one thing to have a license with no equipment to use it. I suspect a phone call to Motorola would have them back in business in less than a week, possibly a day.

Amarillo appears to be paying for a license for a channel that no longer exists that would require equipment that has probably not been produced for decades. That would mean months of lead time and bushels of cubic dollars.

 

[KevinC]

I suspect a phone call to Motorola would have them back in business in less than a week, possibly a day.

Except as far as I know MSI no longer sells anything low-band.

 

[n7maq-1]

Amarillo got that call first in 1985, and it is AM. They only thing that is off is the 20 Watts. Like has been said above, it sounds like a rubber stamped process.

Jim

 

[mmckenna]

Amarillo appears to be paying for a license for a channel that no longer exists

There's no charge to renew licenses. Often it is just easier to keep renewing them rather than sort out what is no longer in use.

 

[kc2asb]

Amarillo got that call first in 1985, and it is AM. They only thing that is off is the 20 Watts. Like has been said above, it sounds like a rubber stamped process.

Jim

By 1985, 27.235 was already part of the CB band, ie channel 24, licensed by rule under Part 95. Could the 20 watts be correct and they are licensed for higher power under Part 90?

 

[nd5y]

By 1985, 27.235 was already part of the CB band, ie channel 24, licensed by rule under Part 95. Could the 20 watts be correct and they are licensed for higher power under Part 90?

Yes, unless it's a typo.

 

[Don_Burke]

Except as far as I know MSI no longer sells anything low-band.

That'll make it a lot harder.

 

[Don_Burke]

By 1985, 27.235 was already part of the CB band, ie channel 24, licensed by rule under Part 95. Could the 20 watts be correct and they are licensed for higher power under Part 90?

It could be that the FCC only computerized the records back that far.

 

[Don_Burke]

There's no charge to renew licenses. Often it is just easier to keep renewing them rather than sort out what is no longer in use.

That explains a lot of the quiet bandwidth on VHF low.

 

[WB5UOM]

If you dip down just a bit below 27mhz ,there are still numerous licensed stations for "broadcast auxillary pickup" to radio/tv stations that I bet (a few I know) hvnt been used in eons either, but they keep right renewing them

 

[KevinC]

I suspect a phone call to Kenwood would have them back in business in less than a week, possibly a day.

I fixed it for you.

 

[nd5y]

The FCC started converting paper licenses to the ULS around 1999.

Some of those broadcast auxiliary paper licenses have no expiration date like this one:

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/LicArchive/license.jsp?licKey=1091137&archive=Y

Some of them don't even have licensee names like this one:

ULS License - Broadcast Auxiliary Remote Pickup License - KKQ832 -

 

[Don_Burke]

I fixed it for you.

Thanks

 

[ecps92]

It's one thing to have a license with no equipment to use it. I suspect a phone call to Motorola would have them back in business in less than a week, possibly a day.

Amarillo appears to be paying for a license for a channel that no longer exists that would require equipment that has probably not been produced for decades. That would mean months of lead time and bushels of cubic dollars.

Government Agencies - do not pay for renewals, only modifications or new applications thru the Freq Coordinators