Cellular mods????

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tonsoffun

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Hey guys

Is there action on cellular anymore since they change to digital? Have not listened for the longest time. It actually became pretty boring when I had my pro-2006.

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Here in the good 'ol U.S.A. we're not legally allowed to monitor cell phones but....... if we were allowed to I would guess that most cell users now have digital phones. I would wager that there aren't any receivers/scanners on the market, to the average consumer anyway, that will demodulate a digital cell call.
 

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I may be wrong on this and feel free to correct me if I am, but dual mode cell phones often switch back to analog for various reasons. I have a Yupi scanner for work purposes and on the rare occaisions that I scan the cellular frequencies I often hear short bits of voice followed by a burst of noise and silence.

Someone told me recently that this is the sound of a dual mode phone switching back and forth from analog to digital.
 

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jellotor said:
I may be wrong on this and feel free to correct me if I am, but dual mode cell phones often switch back to analog for various reasons.

Dual mode phones will switch back and forth but the amount of time spent on analog is pretty low.

I would say that getting a scanner cell modified these days is probably a waste of money unless you do it yourself. The amount of analog channels left on the air is very low compared to previous years.
 

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Ya thats what I mean. I think pretty soon we will see the analog thing pretty much history

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Here's a few things that may clear up digital cellphone questions:

1) - Dual or TriMode phones that have analog only switch to analog in 2 rare cases:
A- When Roaming off your home network AND the roaming partner company is not digitally compatible. (Example, a GSM or TDMA customer roaming on a parter company that only offers CDMA digital, the phone would revert to analog if available).
b - Extreme fringe areas. People out west in Yellowstone ect, often report that the analog signal travels a bit farther than the digital, when you lose dig service, the phone will lock onto a noisy but usable analog signal for a couple more miles...

2) - Digital cellphone transmissions are nothing like APCO Scanner transmissions.
A CDMA Digital phone signal (Verizon, Sprint, Alltel), chops up your call into millions of fraction of a second "bits", & spreads them across a 1.25Mhz Wide patch of frequencies simultaneously. This is equal to a couple of hundred or more "scanner" frequencies". There isn't "1" discrete "frequency" that you could type into a current scanner , to even hear the digital noise!
GSM/TDMA/Nextel are similar, they use a system where there could be anywhere from 2 to 10 or more different digital cell call "parts", on any given frequency every fraction of a second, & there can be pieces of digital information spread across multiple channels.
There is Nothing inside a current Bearcat Or Radio Shack scanner that is capable of receiving, or decoding these complex signals. You could cut every resistor & diode in the radio or Apco card, & that still wouldn't re-materialize the scanner into a CDMA/ or GSM digital decoder receiver. :D
 
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