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Charger/pocket part number for Harris Li-Ion battery? (P7100)

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I picked up some of the new Harris Lithium Ion batteries for my P7100s and discovered, when I got them home, that they don't fit in the charger that all the legacy batteries work with.

Does anyone have the part number for the correct charger, or, hopefully, for a battery sleeve that fits into the standard rapid rate P7100 charger?
 

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I have that charger (but the Rev A version) and that's not it. The newer high cap Harris branded Lithium batteries with the "waffle" texturing do NOT fit in the standard Jag battery pocket. They're thicker.

I can't be sure that the D version charger pocket fits but the A version does NOT fit this battery.
 

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I found out that this particular battery type is for a Unity XG-100 (yes, it fits and works on a 7100) so I'll
need an XG-100 charger for this kind of battery, obviously.

But then again, that charger should work fine with 7100/Jaguar batteries, too.
 

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The LiIon batteries have a extra 'groove' on the back that prevents them from fitting into a NiMH/NiCD charging sleeve. The charger might say Tri-Chem, but it still needs the correct sleeve to work. The one I have is a CH104560-016 (not 026) and it fits these batteries fine. I have tried to put the sleeve into a 026 base and it will not charge, just gives me a fast red flash on the status.

I found it easier (and cheaper) to get one of the aftermarket chargers from eBay that will actually do all the different chemistry batteries without complaining. Mine is a Trans-Canada branded but looks exactly like the Honeywell charger.
 

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I've got the right charger (with cup) coming to me now. It turns out that there are two batteries, one for the XG-100 and one for a 7100/7200, that are very similar but not quite identical and they require different chargers.

I need the newest version of the 7100 charger for this application. I should have it in a few days.

And, ironically, now that I've made the commitment to Li batteries for my 7100s, I just bought a P7370
with everything I want except for ProVoice, and I already bought the ProVoice upgrade for it, which was
a very affordable 250 dollars.

My impression of the P7300 is that it's a good radio, and has addressed the major complaint about the 7100 platform, being its lack of audio output. The 7300 is considerably louder and stays clear at high volume. It's almost like they finally paid attention to Motorola's always superb audio performance in their public safety radios or something.

The 7300's receiver is slightly less sensitive than the 7100. It's noticeable. Sitting side by side, when
my 7100 is receiving at full quieting, there can be some background hiss from the 7300. The 7300 also gets some of the "chirping birds" background noise (on an edacs system) when it's not at full quieting.

I believe the difference is minor enough that using a high gain whip antenna will compensate, and I'll have one of those in hand in a few days when my order comes in that includes the charger and several other goodies.

The 7300's overall audio quality is better than that of an unmodified P7100 but I'm in the habit of doing a simple mod to any 7100. I pull the speaker out of the cover, apply a cross of electrical tape directly
to the face of the speaker, then glue the speaker back into the cover and reassemble the radio. This makes the audio quality of the 7100 very nice, not shrill at all. It almost sounds good enough to be a Motorola radio when you do that.
 

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Re-P7300

I had two P7300 and your right, the audio does sound better then the P54/5300 radio's I think.

I pick up a Unity XG-100.

Elroy, would you know what the flash would coast to upgrade to P25 Trunking? I also heard these radio's can be upgraded to Edacs. Is that true?
 

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The XG-100m already supports EDACS. There are no plans that I know of to support it in the XG-100p though. If I recall, the list cost to add P25 trunking to a radio that doesn't have it is $750 and around another $250 for Phase 2 TDMA support.


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If it's just another 250 bucks then I might spring for Phase II for my 7370, although I'm becoming convinced that the 7300 does not have as good a receiver as a 7100. I'm seeing a consistent difference of about 6dB between the two models. I only have one 7300 but I have a small fleet of 7100s and Jaguars.
 

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I just did an unscientific side by side comparison of a 7370, 7170, and 5150. The 7370 and 7170 are very recently aligned. RSSI was within a few dB between the 7170 and 5150 but the 7370 was a solid 10-15dB better.


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I'll have to go back and correlate my radios' RSSI indicators to my calibrated signal generator to be sure
about the measurements. I know that there is some variance as when I use both radios to monitor the same control channel from the same location, there's always an indicated 6 dB difference. The 7370 gives a lower reading.

I've also noted that there is a quiet "click" every time the speaker unmute on the 7300. That same problem existed with some legacy radios in the past (I think it might have affected some Jaguars and early 7100s) and a fix was cooked up for that. Maybe even in new firmware.

The 7300 could use the same sort of fix. That click gets on your nerves after a while.
 

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I have 2 Lithium-Ion batteries; BT-010942-002 REV PC2 & BT-010942-001 REV C. Are these the correct batteries for a P7100, are these the XG-100 batteries that work with a P7100?

CH104560-016 is the correct Harris charger for these batteries?

These batteries fit in a VC4000 and have charged them a couple times and seems to work ok, anyone know of any issue?

I have a Honeywell charger for multi-chemistry batteries output of 13.5V at 2.2A, a battery for this charger is li-polymer 7.4V 25.9Wh. The Harris battery is 7.4V 23.7Wh. Can I charge the Harris batteries in this charger?
 

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BT-010942-001 is a 3200mAH Li-Ion Battery for the P5100, P5200, P7100 and P7200

I do not see the BT-010942-002 in the compatibility matrix.

CH104560-016 is the single unit Li-Ion charger. It is appropriate for the BT-010942-001.

The VC4000 is also fine for the BT-010942-001 as it supports NiMH and Li-Ion but not NiCad.
 
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