Cheney comming to Reno today

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sigint1

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The Vice President will be arriving in Reno late this afternoon and leaving sometime tomorrow - could provide some good listening opportunities for the Washoe EDACS system.
 

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164.65 has been active. But its digital AND encrypted, so who knows whats going on...

Also, while searching through the fed band, the scanner stopped on 167.4625 digital UNENCRYPTED but so little was said I wouldn't have a clue who it was. I heard one unit say they "were out at the jail". I think this is an FBI freq, but not sure.
 

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Agree with you on being FBI - Couple of years back was at a bank in Reno when it was held up - I happen to have my old Rat Shack freq counter with me - I was sitting in car filling out statement and it was pegging this freq as I saw FBI agents transmiting on handhelds - I have heard both clear and encrypted transmissions om this freq - usualy in clear and pretty mundane stuff - it seems to be like an admin channel or something like that.
 

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Well, I just found this on the 'net at:
http://tinyurl.com/538nw

Bob Tregilus
http://www.ncdpa.org


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SECRET SERVICE FREQUENCIES

When the President/VP visit your town check out these freqs.:
165.375 - Primary Nationwide Repeater & 164.100 VIP Protection
Presidential Motorcade Security:
162.6875 163.200 163.810 164.400 164.650
164.800 164.8875 165.210 165.375 169.925171.2875
32.23 able White House Communications Agency (WHCA)
166.5125 alpha Escort/Security
415.675 black Uniformed Division
165.375 charlie Nationwide Primary Command Post
169.925 delta WHCA - Vans
166.2125 hotel President/VP Security
170.000 juliet Camp David pager
168.825 jilo White House Staff
168.7875 lima White House Staff - voice scramblers
165.2125 mike Former President/VP Security
167.025 november White House Staff
414.950 orange White House Uniformed Division
164.8875 oscar Pres. Motorcades & Executive Family
166.700 quebec White House Staff
166.5125 sierra President/VP Security
164.650 tango President/VP Security
415.875 violet Training Division
414.675 yellow WHCA

Presidential & Secret Service Frequencies

Most of these frequencies are or will be scrambled.
032.2300 - ABLE - WHCA - TRANSPORTATION
166.5125 - ALPHA - ESCORT/SECURITY
165.7875 - BAKER - FLD OFFC - PRES/VP/VIP ESCORTS - NATIONAL
165.3750 - CHARLIE - FLD OFFC - PRIMARY/COMMAND POST - NATIONAL
169.9250 - DELTA - WHCA - VANS/PHONE PATCH/MARINE SERV DETACH
407.8500 - ECHO - AF1/AF2 - PHONE PATCH - UPLINK
415.7000 - FOXTROT - AF1/AF2 - PHONE PATCH - DOWNLINK
166.4000 - GOLF - FLD OFFC - CHARLIE REPEATER - INPUT
165.6875 - HOTEL - WHCA - VP STAFF/WHITE HOUSE GARAGE
166.2125 - HOTEL - PRESIDENTIAL PROTECTION
167.9000 - HOTEL - WHCA - VP STAFF/WHITE HOUSE GARAGE
166.2000 - INDIA - HQ/PRESIDENTIAL PROTECTION
407.9250 - INDIA - HQ/PRESIDENTIAL PROTECTION/TREASURY
170.0000 - JULIET - CAMP DAVID PAGING
167.8250 - KILO - PRESIDENTS RES (LBJ) PHONE - DUPLEX
168.7875 - LIMA - PRESIDENTS RES (LBJ) PHONE - DUPLEX
165.2125 - MIKE - FORMER PRESIDENTS/DIGNITARY PROTEC)
166.7000 - NOVEMBER - WHCA - WHITE HOUSE STAFF
164.8875 - OSCAR - PRESIDENTIAL PROTECTION - PRIMARY
164.4000 - PAPA - FLD OFF/WHITE HOUSE PERIMETER PATROLS
166.7000 - QUEBEC - WHITE HOUSE STAFF
166.4000 - ROMEO - X-RAY REPEATER - INPUT)
165.5125 - SIERRA - WHCA - WHITE HOUSE STAFF/PAGERS
164.6500 - TANGO - FLD OFF/PRESIDENT/VICE PRES PROTEC
165.0875 - UNIFORM - AF1 - COMMUNICATIONS
361.6000 - UNIFORM - AF1 - COMMUNICATIONS
164.1000 - VICTOR - WHCA - PRESIDENT/VICE PRES PROTEC
167.0250 - WHISKEY - PAGING
166.4625 - X-RAY - TREASURY COMMON
162.6875 - YANKEE - AF1/AF2 - PHONE PATCH - UPLINK
171.2875 - ZULU - AF1/AF2 - PHONE PATCH - DOWNLINK


415.7500 - GREEN TRAINING DIVISION - 407.875
415.1000 - BLACK TRAINING DIVISION - 418.325
414.8000 - BLUE TRAINING/PROTECTIVE SUPPORT DIVISIONS
415.8750 - VIOLET TRAINING DIVISION
415.8000 - GRAY PROTECTIVE SUPPORT DIVISION
415.6750 - GOLD COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION - 419.075
415.6750 - BLACK EXECUTIVE PROTECTION DIVISION
414.9500 - ORANGE EXECUTIVE PROTECTION DIVISION
414.8500 - TAN FOREIGN MISSION DIVISIONS
414.8500 - BROWN UNIFORMED DIVISION - 418.800
415.9750 - RED FOREIGN MISSION/UNIFORMED DIVISIONS - 419.725
415.6500 - SILVER FOREIGN MISSION/UNIFORMED DIVISIONS - 419.100
418.1250 - LAVENDER - WHCA TRANSPORTATION
418.3500 - GRAY UNIFORMED DIVISION - 407.750
418.7750 - ORANGE UNIFORMED DIVISION - 414.950
414.6750 - YELLOW UNIFORMED/TECH SECURITY DIVISIONS - 418.150
419.7250 - GREEN TECHNICAL SECURITY DIVISION

Unknown Secret Service Frequencies

163.7375 - UNKNOWN FREQUENCY DESIGNATION
165.2250 - UNKNOWN FREQUENCY DESIGNATION
407.8000 - UNKNOWN FREQUENCY DESIGNATION



Special Usage (Technical Security) Division

408.0000 - F1 RF ALARM
411.0000 - F2 RF ALARM
408.5000 - F3 TRACKER- F1
408.9750 - F4 TRACKER- F2
406.2625 - WIRELESS BODY MICROPHONE
407.8250 - WIRELESS BODY MICROPHONE
407.8750 - WIRELESS BODY MICROPHONE
407.9750 - WIRELESS BODY MICROPHONE



Nighthawk Aircraft Fleet (HMX)

046.7500 - HELICOPTER OPS/TRANSPORT - PRIMARY
046.7000 - HELICOPTER OPS - SECONDARY
046.8000 - HELICOPTER OPS - AUX
034.3500 - VIP TRANSPORT NET
375.0000 - TRANSPORT
142.7500 - COMMAND POST
265.8000 - SQUADRON COMMON

Other Interesting Frequencies

407.8500 - LIMOUSINES (LOCAL ONLY)
408.4500 - AF1/AF2 ORDERWIRE UHF (WFM)

Phone Patch

382.3500 - UPLINK --- DOWNLINK - 326.0000 - F1
305.5500 - UPLINK --- DOWNLINK - 246.9500
336.8000 - UPLINK --- DOWNLINK - 344.0000
322.7500 - UPLINK --- DOWNLINK - 366.0000
397.0500 - UPLINK --- DOWNLINK - 390.0000
407.4750 - UPLINK --- DOWNLINK - 415.8000 - NATL II - PH PATC

US Secret Service

Alpha 32.230 WHCA-Transportation
Baker 165.7875 USSS-Field Offices
Charlie 165.375 USSS-Field Offices/Protection
Delta 169.925 WHCA-Marine Security Detachment
Echo 407.850 WHCA-SAM Uplink
Foxtrot 415.700 WHCA-SAM Downlink
Golf 166.400 USSS-Field Offices
Hotel 167.900 WHCA-V.P. Staff/White House Garage
or 165.6875
or 166.2125
India 407.925 USSS-Headquarters
or 166.200
Juliett 170.000 USSS-Paging/Camp David
Kilo 167.825 Duplex Phone-Pres Res/LBJ
Lima 168.7875 Duplex Phone-Pres Res/LBJ
Lavender 418.125 WHCA-Transportation
Mike 165.2125 USSS-Dignitary/Former Pres Protection
November 166.700 WHCA-White House Staff
Oscar 164.8875 USSS-Presidential Protection
Papa 164.400 USSS-Field Offices/Protection
Quebec ---
Romeo 166.400 and 164.400 USSS-Repeater Outputs
Sierra 166.5125 WHCA-White House Staff
Tango 164.650 USSS-Field Offices/Protection
Uniform 361.600 AF-1 Communications
or 165.0875
Victor 164.100 WHCA VP Protection
Whiskey 167.025 WHCA-Paging
X-ray 166.4625 Treasury Common
Yankee 162.6875 WHCA-Presidential phone uplink or downlink
Zulu 171.2875 WHCA-Presidential phone downlink or uplink

The above info was gathered from several sources. Not all sources agreed on
the same frequencies.

Pres Nighthawk Aircraft Fleet (HMX):
Transport 46.750
Transport 375.000
VIP Transport Net 34.350
Command Post 142.750
Squadron Common 265.800

Other USSS
163.7375?
165.225?
165.6875 Washington Field Office
166.200 Washington Field Office
406.2625?
407.800
407.825 suit radios
407.875 suit radios
407.975
408.000
408.500
408.975

Other phone patches:
Nationwide-2 407.475 uplink
Nationwide-2 415.800 downlink

Limousines (Local/DC) 407.450 duplex
Limousines (Local/DC) 408.200 duplex

have seen Alpha listed as 166.5125
have seen Able 32.23 and 32.32

USSS Uniform Division: All repeaters use PL 103.5
Gray 418.350/407.750
Orange 418.775/414.950
Brown 414.850/418.800
Red 415.975/419.725
Silver 415.650/419.100
Yellow 414.675/418.150

Training Division: Beltsville, MD
Green 415.750/407.875
Black 415.100/418.325
Blue 414.800
Violet 415.800

Communications Division:
Gold 415.675/419.075

Technical Security Division:
Special Use
F-1 408.000
F-2 411.000
F-3 408.500
F-4 408.975


USSS-US Secret Service
WHCA-White House Communications Agency

Notes:
407.850 and 415.700 are never scrambled.
Others are scrambled most of the time during the "real thing".

Sometimes, the best info on plane landings and limo locations and such can be
obtained through regular airport communications and local police.

The PL used extensively by USSS is 103.5 Hz.

Hearing the callsign "Air Force 1" means the President is on the plane.
"Air Force 2" is the Vice President's plane.

--

And I found this at:
http://www.etext.org/CuD/Inform/inform-3


Law Enforcement Surveillance Scanning

by Sterling
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____________________________________________/ \ / \ _________________
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Now days it seems that Big Brother is always listening in. Wherever you
are, whatever you do, there is a good chance that your private conversations
aren't so private. The FBI, Secret Service, DEA, local police, and dozens of
other government agencies are definitely interested in what you have to say.
What can we do about this? Well, unfortunately they have the badges and the
guns, so we may as well get used to it. Since we can't beat'em, might as well
enjoy it, understand it, and learn something from it.


Mikes and Bugs
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Most FCC legal devices are found in the 150 to 174 MHz band, and other,
limited parts of the 40 to 952 MHz range. Here is a list of FCC approved bands
for wireless mike, room bugs, and body mikes. Also note that other bands MAY
be used with special FCC permission. (An "*" indicates a band that may be used
by vehicle tracking transmitters. More on that later)

42.02 to 42.94 MHz
44.62 to 46.58 MHz
47.02 to 47.50 MHz
72.00 to 76.00 MHz
150.995 to 151.49 MHz *
153.74 to 154.445 MHz *
154.635 to 156.25 MHz *
157.05 to 157.11 MHz
158.715 to 159.645 MHz
166.25 to ------ MHz
170.15 to 173.40 MHz
453.05 to 453.95 MHz
458.05 to 458.95 MHz
460.025 to 460.625 MHz
462.95 to 462.975 MHz
465.025 to 465.625 MHz
467.95 to 467.975 MHz
470.00 to 512.00 MHz
821.00 to 824.00 MHz
866.00 to 869.00 MHz


If the purpose of the surveillance is not going to be used for criminal
prosecution, agencies are reported to work outside of FCC restrictions to
avoid detection. Though the FCC declares them illegal, devices have been
found that work in the government, TV broadcast, and even aero bands. The
following areas of the spectrum are known to be used on occasion:

73.00 to 74.6 MHz
137.00 to 138.00 MHz
216.00 to 222.00 MHz
400.00 to 406.10 MHz
608.00 to 614.00 MHz


Surveillance Repeaters
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Law enforcement agencies use mobile repeaters and extenders to retransmit comms
of interest. These low power (about 15 watts) repeaters are usually located in
patrol cars. This allows the officer to monitor the surveillance device from
outside his car via portable handheld transceiver. These are often simply
little used channels of their normal assigned bands. Surveillance mobile
repeaters are still quite weak, so if you can hear it, it's probably close by!
(under your bed ?!) Here is a list of mobile repeaters used by state
enforcement agencies:

Mobile Repeaters (Extenders)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
State Frequency Comments
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Alabama - - - - May equip in the future
Arizona 155.505 15% equipped; no more planned
Arkansas 154.785 Fully equipped
California 154.905 Fully equipped
Colorado - - - - May equip in the future
Connecticut 154.83 40% equipped
Delaware 465.475 Fully equipped
460.50 Alternate frequency
Florida 465.1625 Fully equipped
156.18 Turnpike frequency
Georgia 458.4875 Fully equipped
Idaho - - - - May be equipped
Illinois 155.505 Fully equipped
151.16 Dept. of Criminal Investigation
Indiana 155.445 Fully equipped
Iowa 453.625 Fully equipped
Kansas 154.92 Fully equipped
Kentucky 154.665 Fully equipped
Louisiana 453.45 Fully equipped
Maine 460.225 Some cars equipped
Maryland 155.73 Fully equipped
Massachusetts 154.92 About 40% of cars equipped
Michigan 154.695 Over half of cars equipped
Minnesota 458.25 Fully equipped
453.25 Minneapolis
Mississippi 158.97 Fully equipped
Missouri 154.905 Fully equipped
Montana - - - - May or will be equipped
Nebraska 465.525 Fully equipped
Nevada 154.92 Fully equipped
New Hampshire - - - - May be equipped
New Jersey - - - - Not now equipped
New Mexico 460.15 Fully equipped
465.15 Alternate frequency
New York - - - - Not now equipped
North Carolina 155.445 Fully equipped, freqs. vary by area
154.68 Alternate frequency
154.92 Alternate frequency
159.21 Alternate frequency
North Dakota 453.45 Partially equipped
Ohio 465.55 Northern areas
465.375 Southern areas
465.425 Some units
465.525 Turnpike units
Oklahoma 154.905 Fully equipped (?)
465.0125 Alternate frequency
465.1625 Alternate frequency
465.3875 Alternate frequency
465.5625 Alternate frequency
Oregon - - - - May be equipped or soon will
Pennsylvania 154.755 Fully equipped
Rhode Island - - - - May have future plans
South Carolina 154.445 Some or all cars equipped
South Dakota 453.375 Some cars equipped
Tennessee 154.905 Fully equipped
Texas - - - - Not now equipped
Utah - - - - May have future plans
Vermont - - - - May have future plans
Virginia 453.35 Fully equipped
Washington 453.475 Some cars equipped
453.975 Alternate frequency
West Virginia 155.505 May be equipped, or soon will
Wisconsin 465.125 Fully equipped
Wyoming - - - - May be equipped, or soon will


Vehicle Tracking Transmitters
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Enforcement agencies often need to track suspect vehicles, cargo
shipments, or packages. Tiny transmitters are used that emit a quarter second
beep once each second. Some contain motion detectors that beep once every ten
seconds when not in motion. This saves battery life and of course provides
some information as to the status of the tagged object. Vehicles used for
tracking these transmitters are easy to spot. Look for four identical
antennas mounted in a square configuration. (Hmm, that pizza-van has been
parked across the street for over four days!)


Remote Control Surveillance
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some transmitters can be set for remote control operation. That way they
can be turned off during times of inactivity to conserver power. They can also
be turned off to avoid detection during countersurveillance sweeps to avoid
detection. Look for these types of systems in the 72.01 to 72.99 MHz and 75.99
MHz bands (20 kHz steps). Some are thought to operate in the 300 to 350 MHz
band as well.
 

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joking said:
Agree with you on being FBI - Couple of years back was at a bank in Reno when it was held up - I happen to have my old Rat Shack freq counter with me - I was sitting in car filling out statement and it was pegging this freq as I saw FBI agents transmiting on handhelds - I have heard both clear and encrypted transmissions om this freq - usualy in clear and pretty mundane stuff - it seems to be like an admin channel or something like that.

Joe, which one did you agree as being FBI?
 

sigint1

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OOOPS - the 167.4625 - and also remember this was close to 6-7 years ago - they didn't have the digital radios then - I dont have digital scanner - not enought stuff here in Reno to justify the cost of one for me - joe
 

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The ONLY agency I have found to transmit digital in-the-clear in this area is TSA (172.9) yawn....
 

sigint1

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Hey I work at the Airport and have to deal with them everyday - don't need to listen to them at home too!!!!!
 
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