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ClearTalk MOTOTRBO Connect Plus TRS

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I'm hearing a new Connect Plus 800 MHz system in Normal and Congerville. These are on frequencies licensed to Illinois Cooperative dba Clear Talk. There is always a constant control channel and then other TRBO voice channels that occasionally transmit. Initially, I put these control channels in my scanner as 800 MHz and P25 systems but it can't read these as control channels.

I listened to both the Normal and Congerville sites for this system today and found...

Normal site
858.5375 TRBO voice channels
859.5375 TRBO voice channels
860.5375 control channel data (constant data)

Congerville site
860.0625 control channel data (constant data)
858.0625 TRBO voice channels
859.0625 TRBO voice channels

Info about the system from the Buchanan/ClearTalk website.

We need to revisit the existing sites on the Clear Talk -- Illinois Cooperative Association Trunking System, Areawide, Illinois - Scanner Frequencies
to see if any frequencies listed or other frequencies at those sites have migrated to the new system.
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=2711
 

gewecke

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I'm hearing a new Connect Plus 800 MHz system in Normal and Congerville. These are on frequencies licensed to Illinois Cooperative dba Clear Talk. There is always a constant control channel and then other TRBO voice channels that occasionally transmit. Initially, I put these control channels in my scanner as 800 MHz and P25 systems but it can't read these as control channels.

I listened to both the Normal and Congerville sites for this system today and found...

Normal site
858.5375 TRBO voice channels
859.5375 TRBO voice channels
860.5375 control channel data (constant data)

Congerville site
860.0625 control channel data (constant data)
858.0625 TRBO voice channels
859.0625 TRBO voice channels

Info about the system from the Buchanan/ClearTalk website.

We need to revisit the existing sites on the Clear Talk -- Illinois Cooperative Association Trunking System, Areawide, Illinois - Scanner Frequencies
to see if any frequencies listed or other frequencies at those sites have migrated to the new system.
Correct me if I'm wrong cubn, but if this is entered as a t sys in a gre scanner, then the audio still won't be clear?
I haven't tried but If I understand the way mototurbo works it can't be understood without DSD ?

Thanks,
73,
n9zas
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong cubn, but if this is entered as a t sys in a gre scanner, then the audio still won't be clear?
I haven't tried but If I understand the way mototurbo works it can't be understood without DSD ?

Thanks,
73,
n9zas
Your GRE scanner can only hear digital if it's P-25 so a MotoTRBO signal can't be decoded by it. Although not totally accurate, it's like somebody that can only understand English trying to listen to somebody that only speaks Korean.
 
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Springfield site 14, usual cc of 860.0875 was silent

alt cc 859.0875 was a carrier with beeps, with once in a while the Mot Type II system coming through with the usual S14 information.

So, it's still on the air.

Did not check Mt Olive today, was occupied on the way back home

Here is a video link to what I was hearing and seeing on the scanner, in Springfield:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvCVAHpa_Lg
 
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Sites still on-air

Lakewood (Shelby) still on air. site 3 (853.8375)

Taylorville (Christian) still on air. Site 21 856.9125)

Argenta (Macon) still on air. Site 4 (855.7875)

I have reflected these in the site notes.
 

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I'm trying to listen to TGID 281 which is a company located in Bloomington. Are any of you using a Whistler to monitor this system and if so do you have the system programmed as trunked dmr or conventional? I've tried it both ways on my TRX-1 but not sure I'm picking up all the traffic.

Also, I live in Clinton and the Argenta site 004 is the best signal for me - shouldn't I be able to pick up the Bloomington traffic going through the Normal site 015?
 

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Site 015 Normal needs to be updated

I'm hearing a new Connect Plus 800 MHz system in Normal and Congerville. These are on frequencies licensed to Illinois Cooperative dba Clear Talk. There is always a constant control channel and then other TRBO voice channels that occasionally transmit. Initially, I put these control channels in my scanner as 800 MHz and P25 systems but it can't read these as control channels.

I listened to both the Normal and Congerville sites for this system today and found...

Normal site
858.5375 TRBO voice channels
859.5375 TRBO voice channels
860.5375 control channel data (constant data)

Congerville site
860.0625 control channel data (constant data)
858.0625 TRBO voice channels
859.0625 TRBO voice channels

Info about the system from the Buchanan/ClearTalk website.

We need to revisit the existing sites on the Clear Talk -- Illinois Cooperative Association Trunking System, Areawide, Illinois - Scanner Frequencies
to see if any frequencies listed or other frequencies at those sites have migrated to the new system.
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=2711
858.5375 is listed as control ch. on current database entry for Normal site 015. However, I hear the control at 860.5375.

There are a few new frequencies that I found for the Normal site:
856.5375 for sure and possibly 857.9875, 858.9875, 859.9875.

Also 857.8375 is on the database but should be 857.5375.

I'm apparently picking up all traffic monitoring the Normal 015 site with the following:
860.5375 (control)
859.9875
859.5375
858.9875
858.5375
857.9875
857.5375
856.5375
 
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