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Clifton PD - Alleged radio performance issues

K2YYN

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:unsure: Clifton Police has 2 primary repeated VHF channels; 155.910 and 155.625. There are about 4-5 voter receivers located through the city
(located at Fire Stations) connected via microwave link. Even with this, there still remains a few poor RF locations in the city. However, with the City PD and now the FD reconsidering very seriously a movie to NJICS.
However, with sales reps now pushing very hard upon city government and department heads to have ALL their services (PD,FD,EMS,DPW, Building and Health) switch to NJICS (Like Belleville, NJ). The radio issues news article may indeed be part and parcel of a Public Relations Push by the PD through print media to have this move to the NJICS happen sooner rather than later.:rolleyes: ???

You can see more on this here: https://forums.radioreference.com/t...on-system-nj-ics.217613/page-176#post-3095851
 

ten13

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The cop had difficulty with his radio, not in Clifton, but in Kearny, NJ, which isn't exactly walking distance from Clifton. While the VHF radios should work, I'm sure that's going to play into the conversation at some point.

And they'll probably prohibit chases outside of the town, the cheaper solution, rather than address the radio issue,
 
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The cop had difficulty with his radio, not in Clifton, but in Kearny, NJ, which isn't exactly walking distance from Clifton. While the VHF radios should work, I'm sure that's going to play into the conversation at some point.

And they'll probably prohibit chases outside of the town, the cheaper solution, rather than address the radio issue,
Clifton to Kearny is only about 7 or 8 miles in a straight line. A properly working radio should have no trouble at that distance, especially over relatively flat terrain. I live about 5 miles outside of Clifton and their PD and FD frequencies have always been very scratchy. It never really made any sense.
 

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Clifton VHF Public Safety communications have been in a state of transition over the 15 years especially with the FCC Narrow banding deadline of Jan of 2013. Clifton VHF Public Safety communications were pretty decent even before the switch to repeater operations about 15 years ago also. Before narrow banding they used high gain Super Station Master Base / Repeater type antennas which provided a large decent RF Transmit footprint in which Dispatch/HQ could be heard clearly up to 20 -30 Miles away. When they switched to a repeater system for all their departments, the signal was still heard 20-20 miles away but now you received both sides of the conversation.
There always has been some small rough receiving areas in town due to topography even when voter receivers were installed which eliminated some but not ALL of the receiving issues.
With implementing narrow banding the high gain base/repeater antennas were replaced with much lover gain and a more directed pattern to help keep the signal with in the town borders as much as possible.
As far as I know RF TX power has remained the same. However, even “repeaterized” the RF foot print now on a good day is only about 10 – 12 miles which barley covers neighboring towns. What was once a “strong” signal, if you’re outside of the new RF footprint, the signal will indeed sound scratchy.
 
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I can hear Clifton,NJ down in Princeton,NJ perhaps its just 1 defective radio they had.
I used to go on vacation in Ocean City,Nj and could hear it there too using a cheap radio shack PRO-2009 8 channel base scanner.
Heck probably they should go back to MOTOROLA from HARRIS.
 
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And Marlboro PD bleeds over Wayne Fire if you monitor CSQ, isnt that why PL Tones were invented.

Should have rephrased myself. Actually, if you monitor Pleasantville (westchester county NY) with the correct PL, Clifton still bleeds through in the background.
 
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