coils in an antenna

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thetimadator

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.....some of the antennas you see on cars have coils on them. not loading coils like in a k-40, the big black plastic bulb(lol), but when the antenna wire has been coiled, like a spring, a few inches from the base. what is the purpose of these coils? do more coils and the size affect the performance? do they allow multiple frequncies from one antenna? from what i've been reading an antenna can relatively speaking be only one length, whether it's 1/4,1/2, 5/8 or full wavelength. i see commercial antennas that are all diferent sizes and most have these"coils" in them. does the coil create a "dead" to allow for additional wavelength? for example can a 800 mhz tx/rx antenna have multiple wavelengths if i were to go 1/2 WL then a coil then 5/8? i've only been learning antennas for a bout a week on my own so i've got alot to learn. i want to build an antenna for a mobile data card is my end goal. i understand i can do a straight whip at 1/4,1/2, etc but i would like a better understanding how it works. a 5/8 WL for 800 mhz isn't very big at all and that's what confuses me. some you see in the store or online are longer. will a longer antenna work better. when the coils are put in at different WL's is that refered to as stacking? sorry for all the questions but i just haven't really found answer that i'm satified with yet just by doing searches on the net. thanks to anyone that helps!!!
 

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To the OP-why would you repost this question after Warren's answer to you-just curious? seems to me his answer to this is as good as you will get-especially in light of the fact that both you AND me searched the hell out of this and I came up with one lousy answer similar to Warren's after like 20 searches.
 

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i put in in this forum like warren said i ought to. :)
so the coils or delay line allows for a taller antenna by stacking different wavelengths on top of each other. i see on some antennas the coils are bigger in dia than others and some are longer with more coils than others. how does more vs. less and bigger vs. smaller affect the antenna?
 

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There are a number of reasons why coils are added to an antenna.

Shock absorbtion.
Shortening the antenna.
Lengthening the antenna.
Matching the antenna's load to a certain impedance.
Changing the radiation pattern.

Take your pick of the above. Without knowing WHICH antenna you are talking about, it would be impossible to know why the designer added a coil to your antenna.
 

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i replosted it because he said something about this should in the antenna forum. i should have delete the other one.
OK I see:) anyways Warren's answer on this one was the best answer. I am glad you asked because I too didn't know till now that the "pigtail' point in the whip actually has a function.
 
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