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Here's what I've been able to uncover so far. I have no way of monitoring these systems as of yet, but this is what I've been able to find out about a few systems around the area. Perhaps if someone is able to piece it together, maybe they can add the correct info to the database.

Renfrew County, Ontario (ON) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

152.345 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice (Barrys Bay/Wilno) - Turris Communications Ltd. Call Sign - VGS305
153.425 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice (Barrys Bay/Wilno) - Turris Communications Ltd. Call Sign - VGS305

159.090 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. Call Sign - VGS286
160.080 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. Call Sign - VGS286

162.765 4K00F1WNXDN 6.25 kHz digital voice and data (IDAS, NEXEDGE) - THE TOWNSHIP OF KILLALOE HAGARTY & RICHARDS - FIRE DEPT. - Round Lake - Call Sign CZT679
163.125 4K00F1WNXDN 6.25 kHz digital voice and data (IDAS, NEXEDGE) - THE TOWNSHIP OF KILLALOE HAGARTY & RICHARDS - FIRE DEPT. - Round Lake - Call Sign CZT679

162.810 4K00F1DWN 6.25 kHz digital voice and data (IDAS, NEXEDGE) - THE TOWNSHIP OF KILLALOE HAGARTY & RICHARDS - FIRE DEPT. - Killaloe - Call Sign CZT678
163.860 4K00F1DWN 6.25 kHz digital voice and data (IDAS, NEXEDGE) - THE TOWNSHIP OF KILLALOE HAGARTY & RICHARDS - FIRE DEPT. - Killaloe - Call Sign CZT678

163.755 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Renfrew - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CHC960
167.835 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Renfrew - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CHC960

164.550 11K0F3DJN - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CHC951
166.200 11K0F3DJN - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CHC951
167.400 11K0F3DJN - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CHC951
166.290 11K0F3DJN - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CHC951
171.255 11K0F3DJN - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CHC951
This one appears to be this one, http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=3178 however I have heard digital noise on 166.290, 167.400 and 171.255

162.375 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Pembroke - Turris Communications - Call Sign - CIA792
164.475 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Pembroke - Turris Communications - Call Sign - CIA792
166.845 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Pembroke - Turris Communications - Call Sign - CIA792
171.255 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Pembroke - Turris Communications - Call Sign - CIA792

422.3500 4K00F1DNN NXDN 6.25 kHz data (IDAS, NEXEDGE) - Renfrew - Mobile Business Communications Inc. Call Sign - VGS773
423.9625 4K00F1DNN NXDN 6.25 kHz data (IDAS, NEXEDGE) - Pembroke - Mobile Business Communications Inc. Call Sign - VGS772
424.1500 4K00F1DNN NXDN 6.25 kHz data (IDAS, NEXEDGE) - Deep River - Mobile Business Communications Inc. Call Sign - VGS774
I think this might be part of the OnQue Network OnQue - Ontario Network Trunking System, Multiple Locations, Ontario - Scanner Frequencies

423.9875 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call sign CKH344
424.3875 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call sign CKH344

451.325 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Packenham - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign VXN712
451.875 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Packenham - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign VXN712

460.075 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Burnstown - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign CKH343
460.625 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice - Burnstown - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign CKH343
 
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That's a pretty decent rundown, TAFL in spite of itself can be quite useful, and you seem to know what to look for.

I can hear bits and pieces of the above mostly depending on conditions.

Also interesting is that I can sometimes here parts of different systems on the same frequency at various times. For example last night an NXDN 4.8k control channel was heard on 152.345 (weak, didn't capture anything) . In your list it is DMR up the Valley. At my location a lot comes from the east, towards Montreal.

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I was hoping you'd see this thread Dave, hopefully you can disseminate some of the info here. If only I could figure out how to monitor these using my SDR I'd probably have these all figured out by now, I seriously wish there was a step by step easy to understand process to setting up the SDR to listen to digital systems. As soon as I figure it out, I'll have these figured out.

In the meantime, this is what I've been able to find and hopefully someone can update the database with correct info. Not sure what more info is needed aside from what I've provided already here in order to input these into the database here without being able to actually monitor the systems.

That's a pretty decent rundown, TAFL in spite of itself can be quite useful, and you seem to know what to look for.

I can hear bits and pieces of the above mostly depending on conditions.

Also interesting is that I can sometimes here parts of different systems on the same frequency at various times. For example last night an NXDN 4.8k control channel was heard on 152.345 (weak, didn't capture anything) . In your list it is DMR up the Valley. At my location a lot comes from the east, towards Montreal.

Dave
 

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Not sure what more info is needed aside from what I've provided already here in order to input these into the database here without being able to actually monitor the systems.

Sorry but we don't blindly input frequencies into the database without somebody actually monitoring them.

As far as we know, they're not even on the air yet.
 
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SDR help for Idlemonitor.

Hey Idle monitor,

I am sure some of us here in Ottawa can help you.
Start a new discussion under software defined radio, and then lets see who can help.
I will try to help you.

It is not too hard to get working, but it helps to be familiar with computers and simple batch files.

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You have DSD+ trying to initiate a TCP connection to a signal source, but SDR# does not support that. Looks like you're clicking on the CC batch file to run DSD+; if so, you should be also running the FMP-CC batch file to run FMP, but you'll have to shut down SDR# so that FMP can access the dongle.
 
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You have DSD+ trying to initiate a TCP connection to a signal source, but SDR# does not support that. Looks like you're clicking on the CC batch file to run DSD+; if so, you should be also running the FMP-CC batch file to run FMP, but you'll have to shut down SDR# so that FMP can access the dongle.
Ok so I've closed down the sdr# program. Seems to have almost got me to where I wanna be. I did see some information come up about 422.350 just not sure how to interpret it all. I saw it scrolling through the screen but then try and stop it so I could grab some info.

It's definitely telling me it's a nxdn 4800 system site 41 and some info about neighbour site. Again hard to decipher.

SysID of 201 which matches the OnQue network.

My ppm seems to be off not sure how to set that properly as well as the rf gains etc.

Wish there was an easier way to do this. I'm sure though once it works properly for me I'll get the info for these systems much better.

Just wish it were a bit easier.
 
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Frequency Calibration

Hello again,

You can tune to the weather channel at 162.550 and calibrate, it is very close.

I like to use a Digital TV pilot signal as it better to use a higher frequency, that way any error is less as you tune downward. Or so I have read.

For example tune to one of these signals:

470.310 CH 14 OMNI-2

644.310 CH 43 CHRO-43 This is the highest one I can receive.

Wait for your SDR device to warm up first.

This info came from elsewhere on Radio Reference

Sounds like you are getting there. Have Fun!
 
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I know how to set the ppm in the SDR, that's not the problem, the problem was in the other screen that I had open while this other software was being ran. (I didn't have the SDR running)
It didn't show me where I would set the ppm in this other software.

Sorry it doesn't show it in the screenshot cause I had it running after I took this screen shot.

I'm almost there, but not quite yet though. I'm gonna try playing around with it again tonight if I get a chance to see what it tells me.

I'd have more time to do so during the day, but unfortunately I'm still working, once I'm done for the season I'll have more time to play around with it.

Hello again,

You can tune to the weather channel at 162.550 and calibrate, it is very close.

I like to use a Digital TV pilot signal as it better to use a higher frequency, that way any error is less as you tune downward. Or so I have read.

For example tune to one of these signals:

470.310 CH 14 OMNI-2

644.310 CH 43 CHRO-43 This is the highest one I can receive.

Wait for your SDR device to warm up first.

This info came from elsewhere on Radio Reference

Have Fun!
 
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I did see some information come up about 422.350 just not sure how to interpret it all. I saw it scrolling through the screen but then try and stop it so I could grab some info.

It's definitely telling me it's a nxdn 4800 system site 41 and some info about neighbour site. Again hard to decipher.
Everything is saved in the log files, so use Notepad to look at the CC.log and CC-DSDPlus.event files.

You can freeze the fast-scrolling screen by left-clicking on it and typing Ctrl-S.
 
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I suppose it's ok to just leave the computer on and just sitting on a control channel all day while away at work and come back and open up those files to see what's in them?

Do they automatically save to those each time? I guess I can open up the file and erase anything that's in there right now and just start from scratch?

Is there a way to monitor different frequencies at the same time?

Everything is saved in the log files, so use Notepad to look at the CC.log and CC-DSDPlus.event files.

You can freeze the fast-scrolling screen by left-clicking on it and typing Ctrl-S.
 

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Yes any info that is gathered is periodically auto-saved. As long as the SDR is warmed up and stable (or perhaps you have one of the better/more stable devices) just let it log. This only usually backfires on me if (a) the PPM on the dongle wanders off frequency if I leave it unattended too soon, or (b) if the control channel changes. I ended up buying one of the $25 dongles from rtl-sdr.com - RTL-SDR (RTL2832U) and software defined radio news and projects. Also featuring Airspy, HackRF, FCD, SDRplay and more. and it works fantastic. PPM usually never wanders by anymore than about 0.5/1%.
 
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Not sure what I have here, or rather how I got it, but I did hear some audio :p lol not even sure how I got that too.

460.075 Ctrl Ch.

2016/11/07 17:23:45 Current network: 201
2016/11/07 17:23:45 Current site: 201-18
2016/11/07 17:23:45 Current site: 201-18
2016/11/07 17:23:45 Group call; TG=325729 RID=5330 Slot=1 16s
2016/11/07 17:24:00 Group call; TG=314425 RID=4291 Slot=2 1s
2016/11/07 17:24:03 Group call; TG=325729 RID=5320 Slot=1 6s
2016/11/07 17:24:15 Group call; TG=325729 RID=5330 Slot=2 3s
2016/11/07 17:24:20 Group call; TG=325729 RID=5337 Slot=2 3s
2016/11/07 17:24:29 Group call; TG=325729 RID=5330 Slot=1 3s

I'm hearing digital audio.

Sigh....This is seriously hard to grasp to get the info and who I'm listening to etc.....whaaaa

Although I will say. I'm closer than I have ever been before. I thank everyone helping me through this.
 
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160.080 ---

2016/11/07 18:35:13 Current site: 201-1
2016/11/07 18:35:13 201-1 neighbor: Site 201-2
2016/11/07 18:35:13 201-1 neighbor: Site 201-3
2016/11/07 18:35:13 201-1 neighbor: Site 201-4
2016/11/07 18:35:13 201-1 neighbor: Site 201-5
2016/11/07 18:35:13 201-1 neighbor: Site 201-6


163.755 ---

2016/11/07 18:36:33 Current site: 201-3
2016/11/07 18:36:33 201-3 neighbor: Site 201-1
2016/11/07 18:36:33 201-3 neighbor: Site 201-2
2016/11/07 18:36:33 201-3 neighbor: Site 201-4
2016/11/07 18:36:33 201-3 neighbor: Site 201-5
2016/11/07 18:36:33 201-3 neighbor: Site 201-6

422.350 ---

2016/11/07 18:38:57 Current site: R202-41
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-21; CC=220
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-22; CC=122
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-23; CC=127
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-24; CC=128
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-32; CC=308
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-43; CC=200
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-44; CC=320
2016/11/07 18:39:00 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-45; CC=321

460.625 ---

2016/11/07 18:41:01 Current network: 201
2016/11/07 18:41:01 Current site: 201-18
2016/11/07 18:41:01 201-18 neighbor: Site 201-2
2016/11/07 18:41:01 201-18 neighbor: Site 201-6
2016/11/07 18:41:01 201-18 neighbor: Site 201-8
2016/11/07 18:41:01 201-18 neighbor: Site 201-19
2016/11/07 18:41:01 201-18 neighbor: Site 201-20


Ok, folks, sorry for the multiple posts. These are the current control channels I can hear. Now....Can you decipher this?
 
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