mmisk
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"filter audio" is unchecked
Double check to see that "filter audio" is unchecked. (in your SDR device under audio)
MM
Double check to see that "filter audio" is unchecked. (in your SDR device under audio)
MM
County of Renfrew Digital Systems
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Are you talking about the SD# program for this? I'm not using that for these systems. I'm using DSD
DaveH
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Just sit at the top of the hill on Country Road #1 just outside the 'frew and you should hear just about everything up and down the Valley
Dave
That may be true. But I'm not gonna lug the laptop and USB port stick and the sdr stuff along with me though.Just sit at the top of the hill on Country Road #1 just outside the 'frew and you should hear just about everything up and down the Valley
Dave
424.3875 7K60FXEXT - 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CKH344
This info was monitored on the frequency listed above 424.3875 The info for 423.9875 would appear to be associated with this as well.
2016/11/08 17:18:23 Current site: 201-20
2016/11/08 17:18:24 201-20 neighbor: Site 201-8
2016/11/08 17:18:24 201-20 neighbor: Site 201-18
2016/11/08 17:18:24 201-20 neighbor: Site 201-19
2016/11/08 17:18:24 201-20 neighbor: Site 201-26
423.9875 - 7K60FXEXT - 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CKH344
This info was monitored on the frequency listed above 424.3875 The info for 423.9875 would appear to be associated with this as well.
2016/11/08 17:18:23 Current site: 201-20
2016/11/08 17:18:24 201-20 neighbor: Site 201-8
2016/11/08 17:18:24 201-20 neighbor: Site 201-18
2016/11/08 17:18:24 201-20 neighbor: Site 201-19
2016/11/08 17:18:24 201-20 neighbor: Site 201-26
423.9875 - 7K60FXEXT - 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA - Foymount - Turris Communications Ltd. - Call Sign - CKH344
153.425 7K60FXEXT 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice (Barrys Bay/Wilno) - Turris Communications Ltd. Call Sign - VGS305
2016/11/08 19:05:12 Current site: 201-6
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-1
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-2
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-3
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-4
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-5
2016/11/08 19:05:12 Current site: 201-6
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-1
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-2
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-3
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-4
2016/11/08 19:05:13 201-6 neighbor: Site 201-5
lol, now that I got to this point. But there's definitely alot more I have to learn about what this software can do for me.
I'd like to be able to scan frequencies or systems if I could, also being able to ID/record talkgroups found, understanding bandwidth settings, understanding what's a single frequency DMR type system as appposed to a trunking system and how to tell the difference etc...But these logging files and programming the files are horrendous for a learning curve. I really wish there was a much simpler way of being able to figure these systems out.
This however I think helps my case for putting up a second antenna though. One for the scanner, and one for the SDR/Dongle. Right now I have to unplug the antenna for the scanner to run to the USB dongle.
My work season is coming to an end in about another week, so I'm definitely gonna have more time over the winter to learn this. Hopefully there's more activity on these systems during the daytime, right now I've only had time after dinner to look at them and there's not much for activity.
If anyone can chime in as to what I can do with these files and how to properly program them to help me searching out what's on these systems. Please do post in this thread.
My goal is to eventually get a scanner that will scan/search these systems/talkgroups much like current radios do for regular trunking systems, but for now this is what I have to learn with.
I'd like to be able to scan frequencies or systems if I could, also being able to ID/record talkgroups found, understanding bandwidth settings, understanding what's a single frequency DMR type system as appposed to a trunking system and how to tell the difference etc...But these logging files and programming the files are horrendous for a learning curve. I really wish there was a much simpler way of being able to figure these systems out.
This however I think helps my case for putting up a second antenna though. One for the scanner, and one for the SDR/Dongle. Right now I have to unplug the antenna for the scanner to run to the USB dongle.
My work season is coming to an end in about another week, so I'm definitely gonna have more time over the winter to learn this. Hopefully there's more activity on these systems during the daytime, right now I've only had time after dinner to look at them and there's not much for activity.
If anyone can chime in as to what I can do with these files and how to properly program them to help me searching out what's on these systems. Please do post in this thread.
My goal is to eventually get a scanner that will scan/search these systems/talkgroups much like current radios do for regular trunking systems, but for now this is what I have to learn with.
Your updates are appreciated and have been added to the database.
Having fun, are we?
mmisk
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Your SDR Plus Setup
You will be able to do everything you mentioned. Listen to one group only, lock out others etc.
I guess you are a fair distance from Ottawa, but perhaps there is someone close to you who can help.
My main setup here is on a PC tower, I have installed a second sound card, and can input RF from a scanner with a tap, or from one of my SDR devises. The interesting thing about this setup is that I have the tower groups programmed into the scanner, and if the control channel changes, it will follow it.
Sure have had a lot of fun with this for such a small amount of $$
Mike
You will be able to do everything you mentioned. Listen to one group only, lock out others etc.
I guess you are a fair distance from Ottawa, but perhaps there is someone close to you who can help.
My main setup here is on a PC tower, I have installed a second sound card, and can input RF from a scanner with a tap, or from one of my SDR devises. The interesting thing about this setup is that I have the tower groups programmed into the scanner, and if the control channel changes, it will follow it.
Sure have had a lot of fun with this for such a small amount of $$
Mike
So....how do I set my files up to do all this? Seriously, all the instructions are jibberish to me.
All the frequencies I want to monitor are all posted in this thread.
All the frequencies I want to monitor are all posted in this thread.
mmisk
Member
lets use email
Have to run into town now, but lets use email and I can send you some help when I get home.:
mmisk@hotmail.com
Mike
Have to run into town now, but lets use email and I can send you some help when I get home.:
mmisk@hotmail.com
Mike
slicerwizard
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Really? All I'm seeing are control channels. Aren't you missing some voice channels?
That's all that's listed under the respective licenses as far as I can tell. Both frequencies are control channels, and alternate I'm assuming between voice and control channel.
slicerwizard
Member
DMR channels have two timeslots, so one is the voice channel and the other is a traffic channel for voice and data calls.
You need to monitor the control channels and see how many traffic channels each site has. Best done during weekdays when there is some subscriber activity.
And completely off topic:
This is a wide-area network covering Southern Quebec and Southern Ontario.
NEXEDGE® Network Map
Also seeking Sites: 23, 24, 32
Dwyer Hill, Bonnville, Vernon
You need to monitor the control channels and see how many traffic channels each site has. Best done during weekdays when there is some subscriber activity.
And completely off topic:
This is a wide-area network covering Southern Quebec and Southern Ontario.
NEXEDGE® Network Map
Also seeking Sites: 23, 24, 32
Dwyer Hill, Bonnville, Vernon
Will the software (in one of the text files??) tell me what frequencies they are? Cause anytime I've heard any audio I haven't seen anything anywhere reflect voice frequencies. I know I'm just getting started in all this. I just haven't seen anything.
Example. There's 460.625 & 460.075 is only one supposed to be the control channel and one being the voice frequency? I was under the impression the control channel swapped out every so often. Are you saying no?
In the frequency search on the government website there are other frequencies but I assumed they were just input frequencies nothing else and I don't see them reflected in the database here. Ex. 5 mhz apart.
I think I'm gonna leave the computer just sit on one of these systems control channels tomorrow while I'm at work. Maybe I'll see something that I've missed. I think I know which text file all that info shows up in. I've cleared it all up and starting fresh.
Like you say. I probably need a full day of watching a system during normal working hours to see what happens.
Next is learning how to put it into scanner mode. Whatever that is. I need to try and fully understand how to properly follow a system and learn what's it's telling me and then figure out who's using them and figure out talk groups and channels slots. Where do these colour codes come into play also?
Me learning this is like going back to the days of learning about all the regular trunking systems that we've all become accustomed to that we listen to everyday day now.
slicerwizard
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No. It's the other way around - you have to tell the software.
Some sites rotate their control channel once per day. I didn't say otherwise.
Yes, +5 MHz will be the inputs. I wouldn't trust IC to be up to date, so just because you don't find other channels listed...
Just look for voice call records in the event file.
Once you identify all of the NXDN, DMR and P25 voice channels in your area, you can create a scan list and have DSD+ record all voice calls, which you can later play back to determine who the users are, etc.
Not much of a concern unless you're programming a DMR scanner or radio.
Yep, it's pretty much the same deal. You should be an expert by now!
I've left it on one of the systems today, can't remember which one, I think the Nexedge system. If I see any info in the logging file I'll post updates here to see if anyone can help me figure more stuff out.
By the way, everyone's been great helping me through this. Been interesting learning about these new systems.
By the way, everyone's been great helping me through this. Been interesting learning about these new systems.
No. It's the other way around - you have to tell the software.
Some sites rotate their control channel once per day. I didn't say otherwise.
Yes, +5 MHz will be the inputs. I wouldn't trust IC to be up to date, so just because you don't find other channels listed...
Just look for voice call records in the event file.
Once you identify all of the NXDN, DMR and P25 voice channels in your area, you can create a scan list and have DSD+ record all voice calls, which you can later play back to determine who the users are, etc.
Not much of a concern unless you're programming a DMR scanner or radio.
Yep, it's pretty much the same deal. You should be an expert by now!
I Left it on the Nexedge System today while at work. This is all I got. Doesn't even look like anyone even used it for making any radio calls.
OnQue - Ontario Network Trunking System, Multiple Locations, Ontario - Scanner Frequencies
2016/11/10 05:24:57 Current site: R202-41
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-21; CC=219
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-22; CC=123
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-23; CC=126
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-24; CC=128
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-32; CC=309
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-43; CC=200
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-44; CC=320
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-45; CC=321
2016/11/10 05:47:30 Registration; RID=1284 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:09:40 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:19:13 Registration; RID=1284 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:22:23 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:47:20 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:57:21 Registration; RID=1272 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 07:27:50 Deaffiliation; RID=1272 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 07:38:55 Registration; RID=3354 TG=170 GROUP REJ
2016/11/10 08:13:29 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 08:22:15 Registration; RID=1281 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 08:34:37 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 09:30:54 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 09:36:36 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 10:09:41 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 10:10:50 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 10:56:56 Deaffiliation; RID=1290 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 12:50:23 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 12:51:25 Deaffiliation; RID=1290 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 14:28:12 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 15:53:50 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 FAILED
2016/11/10 15:53:57 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 FAILED
2016/11/10 15:59:33 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 GROUP REJ
2016/11/10 16:28:55 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 16:34:27 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:06:54 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 GROUP REJ
2016/11/10 17:07:40 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 GROUP REJ
2016/11/10 17:17:26 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:20:59 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:48:49 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:51:31 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:54:18 Deaffiliation; RID=1320 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:04:32 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:33:44 Deaffiliation; RID=1320 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:35:40 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:36:54 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:45:38 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:49:37 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:53:30 Deaffiliation; RID=1320 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:03:19 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:03:23 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:09:57 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:12:06 Deaffiliation; RID=1320 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:14:58 Deaffiliation; RID=1323 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:23:13 Deaffiliation; RID=1290 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-2
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-6
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-8
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-19
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-20
OnQue - Ontario Network Trunking System, Multiple Locations, Ontario - Scanner Frequencies
2016/11/10 05:24:57 Current site: R202-41
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-21; CC=219
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-22; CC=123
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-23; CC=126
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-24; CC=128
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-32; CC=309
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-43; CC=200
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-44; CC=320
2016/11/10 05:25:01 R202-41 neighbor: Site R202-45; CC=321
2016/11/10 05:47:30 Registration; RID=1284 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:09:40 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:19:13 Registration; RID=1284 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:22:23 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:47:20 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 06:57:21 Registration; RID=1272 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 07:27:50 Deaffiliation; RID=1272 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 07:38:55 Registration; RID=3354 TG=170 GROUP REJ
2016/11/10 08:13:29 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 08:22:15 Registration; RID=1281 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 08:34:37 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 09:30:54 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 09:36:36 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 10:09:41 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 10:10:50 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 10:56:56 Deaffiliation; RID=1290 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 12:50:23 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 12:51:25 Deaffiliation; RID=1290 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 14:28:12 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 15:53:50 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 FAILED
2016/11/10 15:53:57 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 FAILED
2016/11/10 15:59:33 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 GROUP REJ
2016/11/10 16:28:55 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 16:34:27 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:06:54 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 GROUP REJ
2016/11/10 17:07:40 Registration; RID=2558 TG=170 GROUP REJ
2016/11/10 17:17:26 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:20:59 Registration; RID=3962 TG=642 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:48:49 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:51:31 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 17:54:18 Deaffiliation; RID=1320 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:04:32 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:33:44 Deaffiliation; RID=1320 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:35:40 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:36:54 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:45:38 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:49:37 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 18:53:30 Deaffiliation; RID=1320 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:03:19 Registration; RID=1320 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:03:23 Registration; RID=1323 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:09:57 Registration; RID=1290 TG=631 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:12:06 Deaffiliation; RID=1320 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:14:58 Deaffiliation; RID=1323 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:23:13 Deaffiliation; RID=1290 ACCEPTED
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-2
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-6
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-8
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-19
2016/11/10 19:24:44 R202-41 neighbor: Site 202-20
Nope... not much action there. Can you get decent signal on any other sites, maybe give one of those a try?
Yeah I've got a few more to try out. Will try each system each day while I'm away just to see what's up.
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