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King18471

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Simple question. In general would you go for a diamond or comet brand antenna and why? Are both brands decent? I’m keeping this broad on purpose. I know we can get very specific for each application and radio but I just am trying to get a feel for the quality of each brand as a whole. Primary usage would be HT. Is there any better brands to consider at this price point? Thank you.
 

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Cheep crappy Chinese antennas. Some are not even the frequencies listed.

And some of the Ham band antennas are NOT for US Ham frequencies.
 

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Both Diamond and Comet are reputable companies. The effectiveness of their antennae varies with type and application. I would suggest you narrow your selection down then do some research.

https://www.eham.net/reviews/ is an excellent source of user-supplied reviews.
 

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Both Comet & Diamond manufacture quality antennas as KK4JUG implied. Contrary to cmdrwill claiming they made China, they are made in Japan.

They are still CRAP.............................................. contrary to your statement........................................
 

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Both are good. I prefer COMET. I like the fold over feature on the Comet mobile 5/8 wave. I also use a Comet GP-3 and Comet GP-6 and they are very well made and work awesome.
 

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Six of one, half-dozen of the other. They are both quality products and I believe they're both made by the NCG Company in Japan.
 

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I read somewhere the antenna system should cost as much as the radio. I replaced a 1/4 wave at 15' with a Comet GP9 at 30' with some LMR400 and I went from a few miles to half the state. Literally. Maybe the Diamond would do good . I also got a Comet CA-2x4SR dual band and love it. It works better than my Larsen 150, been knocked over on the top of my van countless times, had it over 100 miles/hour. The SR part number means it can be used by Search and Rescue a little off ham frequencies. Had both for years now and no problems.
 

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Regarding just base antennas, in my experience, Diamond and Comet are pretty much interchangeable. They are both colinear designs with matching sections between the internal elements. They both have fairly thin fiberglass radomes that flex in the wind and shatter when hit by lightning. They both have joints so that they can be broken down into ship-able lengths. Diamond uses metal fittings at the joints that screw together. Comet uses plastic joints. They are both prone to flexing with the resultant water leakage where the radome meets the base. The really long ones, like the Diamond X500 and X700 really need to be supported about 2/3 of the way up to hold down the flexing. The shorter ones like the X30 and X50 work just fine. They aren't made in China--they are made in Japan, though there are Chinese rip-offs on the market. Some of the rip-offs go by somewhat recognizable names like Browning and Tram. Some of the rip-offs actually reproduce the Diamond or Comet logos.
 

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As for specs, watch the quoted numbers very closely. Some of the specs are in dBd (relative to a dipole) while some are in dBi (relative to a theoretical isotropic radiator). dBi numbers are generally about 2.1 dB higher than dBd numbers, e.g. an antenna rated at 10.6 dBi is the same as 8.5 dBd.
 

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I use a comet GP3 about 30’ off the earth fed by 100’ LMR400 for my base QTH never got a bad report on local or distant repeaters. Never had a Dimond base antenna but a few for the HT. They as well worked great. Either way it’s a major improvement over the stock rubber ducky
 

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Diamond antennas tend to be built better than Comet but neither are built for rough service.
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Ham grade antennas are mostly just colorful packaging, fake gain figures, and flimsy build quality and Diamond and Comet are no exception.
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And since the antenna is in fact the one component that will make or break the entire system, you are always better off buying commercial grade antennas from Tessco.
 

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Diamond antennas tend to be built better than Comet but neither are built for rough service.
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Ham grade antennas are mostly just colorful packaging, fake gain figures, and flimsy build quality and Diamond and Comet are no exception.
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And since the antenna is in fact the one component that will make or break the entire system, you are always better off buying commercial grade antennas from Tessco.

Based on your recommendation, I went looking at Tessco. The products may be the best in the world but they seem to have very little for hams. Their dual band antennae are for bands that few hams use. I could find no UHF mounts and lots of GPS antennae. You're right. They're for commercial use.
 

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I could find no UHF mounts...
UHF mounts, like what Diamond and Comet push onto the amateur radio market, are a poor excuse for a mobile antenna mount. They are not as mechanically strong as an NMO mount, for example, and they are not waterproof like an NMO mount.

You can go to just about any radio dealer, even some of the amateur radio dealers, and buy a Larsen NMO 2/70. This is a half wave antenna on 2m and half over half on 440 designed by a commercial antenna manufacturer for amateur radio. It has an NMO mount. It works very well and is very reliable, in my experience.
 
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