Difference between Hex and Decimal ID

[KC2GSP]

There was a topic previously created about creating aliases for the numeric ID's that are displayed on selected talk groups but it's so old now that it's closed for replies.

The question I have is that whenever you see (6) digit ID's, those are in Hex format, but some of the ID's I'm getting are in (5) or (3) digit. Are those in Decimal ?

 

[RaleighGuy]

There was a topic previously created about creating aliases for the numeric ID's that are displayed on selected talk groups but it's so old now that it's closed for replies.

The question I have is that whenever you see (6) digit ID's, those are in Hex format, but some of the ID's I'm getting are in (5) or (3) digit. Are those in Decimal ?

That is not correct, HEX and DEC can be of any length as seen below, the first column is dec and the second is hex. One indicator is if you see alpha/numeric it is hex, just numeric is dec, though as you see below some numeric IDs can be hex.

 

[BabaDude77]

If you’re talking about the radio ID number that’s just a regular number assigned to the radio. Depending on the system the number can be 3-4-5-6 digits. Here in CT the radio IDs for municipal departments police and fire are based on the municipal tax code, state PD have their own and so do other state entities. If you are programming radio aliases for a system just input the number that you see on the unit when they transmit. I have hundreds in my G4 and have become obsessive with finding them and adding them haha

 

[KC2GSP]

If you’re talking about the radio ID number that’s just a regular number assigned to the radio. Depending on the system the number can be 3-4-5-6 digits. Here in CT the radio IDs for municipal departments police and fire are based on the municipal tax code, state PD have their own and so do other state entities. If you are programming radio aliases for a system just input the number that you see on the unit when they transmit. I have hundreds in my G4 and have become obsessive with finding them and adding them haha

I'm referring to the p25 ID that comes up on the screen. Most were 6 digits but some aren't. I'm just unsure of whether they are hex or decimal since you have to choose as you enter each one in under Group ID setting in pps

 

[BabaDude77]

Oh gotcha

 

[RaleighGuy]

I'm referring to the p25 ID that comes up on the screen. Most were 6 digits but some aren't. I'm just unsure of whether they are hex or decimal since you have to choose as you enter each one in under Group ID setting in pps

If you share what system, we will be happy to look at the RR database which will tell you which is which. You can also program the pager directly from the database, eliminating any confusion. As shown above, even on a single system the group (talkgroup) IDs can vary.

 

[KC2GSP]

Westchester NY Fire/EMS

Westchester County NY

I took a shot on my phone and uploaded the images. The systems are directly imported from radio reference. Just trying to figure out if the numeric string of numbers displayed is in Hex or Dec, if there's a default setting etc

 

[RaleighGuy]

@KC2GSP check the link below and it will show you the DEC and HEX in two columns as shown (in part) in the attached screenshot.

Westchester County (P25) Trunking System, Westchester County, New York

Westchester County (P25) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[KC2GSP]

I'm not sure if I'm not explaining myself appropriately. I already have every alpha tag description programmed from the system, directly downloaded from RR (with the hex and Dec ID's) to show what talk group the radio is landing on.

What I'm referring to is when radios are keyed up on the system, they are showing the string of numbers individual to that particular radio for it's p25 ID.

 

[KC2GSP]

 

[KC2GSP]

 

[RaleighGuy]

What I'm referring to is when radios are keyed up on the system, they are showing the string of numbers individual to that particular radio for it's p25 ID.

Okay, those are showing Dec as displayed, the radio ID numbers are assigned by the radio shop and may differ in length depending on the Department/Agency/user the radio is assigned to. Post #3 by @BabaDude77 describes them.

 

[RaleighGuy]

@KC2GSP my guess is the second picture is dispatch while first picture is a unit. Both those numbers are dec

A good example of how widely different radio IDs can be check out our state system RIDs in the wiki

North Carolina VIPER P25 Radio ID's - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

 

[KC2GSP]

Thank you. I just didn't want to start inputting them under the alias tab as Hex format if they are in Dec format. I read somewhere on here that hex format would be 6 digits but that doesn't appear to be the case

 

[jtwalker]

In PPS you can enter in either format, but I have never seen UID’s provided in HEX just in DECimal. But I suppose they could be provided in either format. It’s just two different representations of the same value, like Roman numeral MMXXIII or 2023 as we normally see the year (Arabic).

 

[KC2GSP]

While we're on this topic, is there a way to log ID's while monitoring a system like the way it's done using something like ProScan ?

It's kind of a pain doing it by hand, I saw a screenshot of it being done somehow but didn't know if that went away with a previous version of PPS

 

[RaleighGuy]

While we're on this topic, is there a way to log ID's while monitoring a system like the way it's done using something like ProScan ?

It's kind of a pain doing it by hand, I saw a screenshot of it being done somehow but didn't know if that went away with a previous version of PPS

I am not aware of any logging for UID/RIDs on G series pagers

 

[N6ML]

I'm just unsure of whether they are hex or decimal

There are two options in PPS for ID display format (it's part of the profile, so you'd have to send it to the pager if you update it, of course) - on tab D8, scroll all the way to the bottom and look for "Display Format Setting". Both default to decimal.