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Nov 24, 2005
Border services tracking system under fire by AG

Andrew Mayeda
Canwest News Service

Tuesday, May 06, 2008

OTTAWA - Canada's border-protection agency doesn't know the whereabouts of about 41,000 individuals who have been ordered to leave the country, the auditor general has found.

Moreover, Canada Border Service Agency officers don't investigate the vast majority of such cases, for fear of devoting resources to find people who might have already left the country.

As a result, there are a growing a number of individuals who might be staying illegally, including serious criminals.

However, it's impossible to determine exactly how many, because the agency's national tracking system remains "limited," Sheila Fraser's audit said Tuesday.

The Commons public accounts committee asked Fraser to follow up on a 2003 audit showing that a growing number of people remained in Canada despite being ordered to leave.

CBSA officers are authorized to arrest and detain permanent residents and foreign nationals who pose a danger to the public, cannot verify their identity, or are likely to skip their immigration proceedings.

The most recent audit found the agency has improved its ability to assess risks and track individuals ready for removal. Still, the number of individuals who might be staying illegally continues to grow.

But Fraser noted that most countries have illegal immigrants, and she said policy-makers should decide how many is acceptable.

"The reality is there will always be people in the country illegally. What that number should be . . . is really up to the department to decide," she told reporters.

At the time of the 2003 audit, the agency had no means of counting the number of people ordered to leave the country.

But the CBSA has since established a database that tracks the number. As of September 2007, there were about 63,000 individuals in the agency's database who were subject to either removal orders or immigration warrants.

An immigration warrant is a warrant for arrest and detention under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.

The agency knew the whereabouts of roughly 22,000 individuals, but the remaining 41,000 individuals could not be located.

Fraser's office does not know for sure how many of those individuals might have been serious criminals. But Fraser said most of the 41,000 are likely failed refugee claimants who don't represent a serious security risk.

The agency was supposed to roll out a new case-management system that would have integrated 14 legacy systems, including the one used to track detentions and removals.

But the implementation of the new system has been delayed, leaving regional CBSA officers to develop their own methods of prioritizing cases.

The audit also revealed the agency does not track whether individuals whose temporary-residence permits have expired have left the country as required.

Individuals deemed inadmissible to Canada may be allowed to enter temporarily under certain circumstances, such as on humanitarian or compassionate grounds.

CBSA officers can issue such permits, but are supposed to document their reasons for the decision.

Fraser's office randomly examined 64 of the 639 permits issued in 2006 to past serious criminals, meaning individuals convicted of offences that would carry a maximum prison sentence of 10 years under Canadian law.

Officers clearly documented their reasons for issuing the permits in 43, or 68 per cent, of the files. The 2003 audit found that 51 per cent of the files had been properly documented.

Fraser also found the agency does not adequately monitor detention and removal decisions to ensure that individuals are treated fairly and consistently.

For example, different regions were found to have based decisions on the number of beds available at detention facilities, rather than the agency's mandated criteria.

The audit also revealed the agency is not managing detention costs effectively, with little oversight of such costs. The CBSA spent $36.3 million to detain 12,824 people in the 2006-07 fiscal year, but did not disclose that information to the public.

© Ottawa Citizen 2008


Completely Banned for the Greater Good
Mar 22, 2005
Point Pleasant Beach, N.J.
HA HA! See how well your immigration points system works? Word out of Toronto is the Metro Police just LOVE the Mexican gangs. See what happens when you don't pay attention to the LAPD training officers we sent you? Welcome to Los Estados Unidos de Mexico mi amigo.

Hey, I hear you had problems with runaway slaves a while back too. Will you EVER learn?


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Dec 2, 2006
I bet it's worse in the US. In 2005, 965,000 people accepted an offer of "voluntary departure" from the US after they'd been found to be in the US illegally.
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