DTR650 to DLR1020 - Talkgroup in use

[kd4e]

I need a DTR650 to transmit to several DLR1020's.

I read that this must happen in Public mode.

We've tried a variety of settings and keep getting a "Talkgroup in use Channel 7" error when the DTR650 is keyed.

Has anyone does this who can share what settings are necessary, please?

(Note: We'd like the DLR's to be unable to transmit, if possible, but that's a separate issue.)

Firmware: R5E.06.05

Thanks!

 

[nokones]

You have to make sure that both model radios are set for the frequency hop set code for the channel you are trying to communicate with in the DLR radios.

 

[kd4e]

Can you translate "frequency hop set code" to what I'll literally see in the CPS programming app, please?

I don't believe that those terms are used - but there are lots of Private and Public settings, Channels, etc.

e.g. Under Public Groups there's Index, Name, Channel, and ID.

(I'm dealing with no complete night's sleep for 8 days due to the side-effects of a hip flexor injury, so the synapses may be firing a bit more slowly than they ought ...)

I sure appreciate the assist!

Thanks.

 

[nokones]

The frequency Hopset numbers and the Profile ID numbers must be the same foe each portable in your communications group. The Profile ID setting is in your Basic Menu settings and the Frequency Hopset setting is in your Advanced Menu Settings

 

[kd4e]

We must be using a different version of the software.

I don't see that screen anywhere.

I'm using CPS version R05.00

 

[nokones]

I'm using Business Radio Customer Programming Software R.09.05

 

[kd4e]

OK, cool. Lemme find and load that.

Thanks!

 

[kd4e]

OK, cool. Lemme find and load that.

Thanks!

I couldn't find that version but did find 10.00.

It requires that the old version be uninstalled - so I saved the profiles and will let our son do the uninstall and install.

(I'm a Linux guy so I'm not familiar with MS uninstall.)

 

[kd4e]

OK, 10.00 installed and radio read-in.

Is it possible that the Frequency Hopset setting is available for the 600/700's but not the older 650?

I had been trying to follow the instructions here:

Help Programming Mixed DTR650 and DTR700

DTR700 radios can be easily integrated into a fleet of DTR650 radios and work in public and private groups with the legacy DTRs. Public group IDs can start at ID = 1 instead of 21. There is a lot to unpack here. See below. I have owned a fleet of DTR700s, a fleet of DTR650s, and a fleet of...

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[kd4e]

This is what I'm being shown - does it help any?

 

[kd4e]

OK. After some coffee I reread that Two Way Radio guide and found this: "NOTE: Setting the 4-digit radio PIN has to be done carefully. Choose a favorite 4 digit number that’s easy to remember and hard for others to guess. Don’t use anything obvious like 1234, etc. Also note that the last digit (4th digit) of the PIN sets the hopset the radio uses. PIN = XXX1 means hopset 1 will be used. Hopset 1 is the default hopset identical to “Channel 1” (hopset 1) in the legacy DTRs. PIN = XXX2 means hopset 2 will be used, etc. PIN = XX10 means hopset 10 will be used. The hopset used applies to the whole radio unless the Profile ID Number Lock on the ADVANCED page in the CPS is unchecked (off). The default is ON (checked). Disabling Profile ID Number Lock has to be done with caution because the hopset on channels then becomes editable and other programming may cause some features to not work if the hopset is changed. The CPS warns about this. I recommend leaving Profile ID Number Lock ON (default) and choosing a 4-digit PIN carefully and with the last digit (4th digit) of the PIN matching the hopset you want to use. This assumes all programming in the radio uses the same hopset. The Profile ID Number Lock will need to be disabled (unchecked) if your programming uses more than one hopset."