EMS communication to hospitals

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Does STL EMS communicate with Barnes and SLU via a TGID and if so, what's that TGID?
 

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Most EMS on the MO side of the river use cell phones to call the hospital. Radios are a back up when the don’t answer the phone or for mass casualty notification/coordination. SLATER has talkgroups for each hospital but I’m not sure of any on City/MOSWIN.
 

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You could try 155.43000 mhz, Ambulance to Hospital Patient reports.

Unless it's a regional thing for your area the frequency for HEAR 340 should be 155.340... it used to be used extensively but reports are now pretty much over cell phone and/or by data terminals in the ambulance
 

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Yes, the St Louis area, as far as we've known, has been using cell phones for years.

HEAR/MED/MERCI frequencies are only used by inbound agencies from other areas and Arch helicopter. In the Metro East however there are a few agencies using a talkgroup to contact one specific Hospital ( Glen Carbon, Maryville, Troy Fire EMS talkin to Anderson Hospital). Oddly enough all patient reports on that talk group are in the clear
 

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There are TG's on the SLATER system for a few of the hospitals in west St Louis Co. They are three digit TG numbers and are used a bit by mostly fire departments in the area. There are SLATER radios in most of the ER's in the county but unknown which ones use the system the most.
 

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Are the encrypted?


There are TG's on the SLATER system for a few of the hospitals in west St Louis Co. They are three digit TG numbers and are used a bit by mostly fire departments in the area. There are SLATER radios in most of the ER's in the county but unknown which ones use the system the most.
 

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Are the encrypted?

I see them used by a handful of hospitals but not much use at all.
I've never logged encryption on any of the talkgroups listed in the RRDB for hospital use when I monitor the control channels.

And as was stated by @scanman1958 - they are mostly used by the various fire agencies EMS units to speak with the area hospitals.
Very low use of the Slater hospital talkgroups though.
 

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In Illinois ARCH typically uses IREACH (155.055) on vhf to contact and coordinate landing with fire/ems units on scene. There are several IREACH to/from STARCOM21 patches but most fire departments use a vhf radio because the patches are not always reliable. If you listen to IREACH you will hear ARCH a lot but won't hear the on scene units. This is because the helo is at altitude and obviously will have better propagation.

In Missouri, specifically the St. Louis Area, they use VFIRE21 (154.280) I believe.

ARCH itself has its own UHF frequencies it uses to communicate with it's dispatch.
ARCH to hospitals, they will probably use whatever VHF or UHF (MED channel) the hospital uses for inbound patient reports. MERCI 340 (155.340) is a good place to start


I can tell you that if you're trying to monitor EMS to hospital comms you will find that it's pretty much non-standard these days as everyone does it a bit differently. You might hear stuff on 155.340 one day and then nothing. This is because if I'm in the back of an ambulance and need to give an inbound report I can either call on cellphone, call on vhf (MERCI channels), call on UHF (MED Channels), or a hospital talkgroup if it has one. Sometimes it gets even more confusing because some areas will patch a new P25 talkgroup into a VHF or UHF hospital channel.

Every hospital has radios but to what capacity is unknown. If they utilize a MERCI or MED channel, they usually have there own hospital specific PL tone so they don't have to hear reports to other hospitals all the time (linked above). I know most in IL have at least 1 starcom radio, but again what talk groups, it depends.

Like I said earlier, cell phone patient care reports are the norm in St. Louis. In IL it's very department/hospital dependent.
 
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