Ems to Hospital transmissions

[fire901]

I have a question how does South SIde EMS communicate with the Hospitals I never hear any radio traffic on the HEAR SYSTEM neither on the UHF med channels?

Thanks
MIke

 

[30319]

I'm not sure who South Side EMS is but in the metro Atlanta area most EMS units call the Hospital on the phone and relay patient information. The UHF MED channels are used RARELY. The HEAR system is also used RARELY. You can hear many Metro Atlanta Ambulance Service units and Cherokee County FD calling Kennestone Hospital on UHF MED 3. Air ambulances use the HEAR System to contact most hospitals. Many P25 Digital systems (Grady EMS is on Atlanta's system) have a dedicated channel to speak with following hospitals: Grady, Emory Midtown and Atlanta Medical Center). I hope this helps.

 

[ecps92]

Georgia, Administrative Rules and Regulations, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, 290-5-30-.05 Licensure of Ambulance Services.

d) Communication:

1. Each ambulance shall be equipped with a two-way radio that provides ambulance-to-hospital communications.

2. All ambulance providers shall have two-way radio communication between each ambulance and the location receiving requests for emergency service.

3. The ambulance radio shall be able to operate within the regional emergency medical services communications plan.

Altho most states still require that an Ambulance have a Radio for Amb-Hosp comms, many have moved to Cellphone for Secure (No not because of HIPAA) communication, however they must still be recorded at the Hospital end.

Some historical radio info is avail at
www.nwgaems.org/EMS COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.doc
and includes PL tones, which might still be valid.

 

[W8VFD]

About the only thing that the 155.340 HEAR frequency is used for around here these days is for Fire Departments to communicate with medical helicopters for remote landing zones.

 

[RRR]

I think there are many people taking this whole "HIPPA" act way out of context, and attempting to apply to situations it really doesn't cover.

 

[fire901]

30319

South side is the Primary 911 EMS provider for Savannah I just moved from Chattanooga Tn and you could hear all EMS transmissions to the hospitals on the Chattanooga Med-Comm channels They never gave the patients name so there was no Hippa violations. Svannah is just different I have never lived in a city that uses 3 different Radio Networks and systems to dispatch on.

 

[ecps92]

Even still, giving a name would not be a HIPAA (not HIPPA) violation

There is no prohibition, if for the patients advantage, about giving the name and identfication information

30319

South side is the Primary 911 EMS provider for Savannah I just moved from Chattanooga Tn and you could hear all EMS transmissions to the hospitals on the Chattanooga Med-Comm channels They never gave the patients name so there was no Hippa violations. Svannah is just different I have never lived in a city that uses 3 different Radio Networks and systems to dispatch on.

 

[DJ11DLN]

Even still, giving a name would not be a HIPAA (not HIPPA) violation

There is no prohibition, if for the patients advantage, about giving the name and identfication information

Very true, but then authorities do tend to err on the side of caution. Locally, just about all of my ambulance-to-hospital frequencies and TGs have gone silent and I'm guessing that it is due to HIPAA concerns. In the case of one hospital, I know for a fact that it is; their policy now is that the ambulance crew uses cell phones, and only calls up on the radio if their phones don't get a signal. And when the people making the decisions don't fully understand the law, this sort of thing happens.

 

[Ryangn]

I read a while back in the Augusta Chronicle that Gold Cross in the Augusta - CSRA area was installing data terminals in their rigs to send patient info to the hospitals so they don't have to use the radios anymore.

 

[MTS2000des]

We use VHF HEAR, Med 3 and the Cobb DTRS at Kennestone. We also have Southern LINC. But most of the calls to our command center come through the phone. We have our own dedicated talkgroups on the Cobb DTRS for all 5 hospitals in our system for incoming EMS, and use the DTRS for our security and administrative operations.

I know, I'm the guy that takes the calls.

HIPAA has little to do with it. Most of it has to do with the fact that it's just easier to give a detailed incoming alert/PCR over the landline.
Quick admits and traumas usually come over the radio(s) though.
HIPAA allows for basic patient stats/vitals and generic demo info to be put over the air in the clear. Anyone who says different is a liar and has never had any training on HIPAA.

 

[CapStar362]

About the only thing that the 155.340 HEAR frequency is used for around here these days is for Fire Departments to communicate with medical helicopters for remote landing zones.

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primary used for LZ Setup and location descriptions

 

[k9advil]

I have a bcd325p2 scanner,can it be programmed to monitor ems fire communication to the hospitals in Columbus,georgia

 

[gman4661]

I would try monitoring HEAR at 155.340.

I don't know about Columbus, but in my area of Georgia, HEAR is the standard for EMS to hospital communication. I monitor quite a bit of radio traffic to the 7 area hospitals.

 

[N8IAA]

I have a bcd325p2 scanner,can it be programmed to monitor ems fire communication to the hospitals in Columbus,georgia

If you program in the county Phase II system with the proper TGID's, you should hear EMS being dispatched to the scene and headed to the hospital. You generally won't hear them transmitting vitals to the hospital. It isn't like the old days of scanning. Too many rules and regulations now.
I monitor FD for multiple counties and never hear who, or why they are transporting.
Larry

 

[k9advil]

Thanks N8lAA,you are right, I can monitor EMS being dispatched, but no transmission from the hospital .If anyone know anyone that programs or have a program for BCD325p2 in the Columbus, GA area,give me a holler

 

[k9advil]

PROGRAMMING

If anyone in the Columbus,Ga. area, knows programming the BCD325p2,or have the program, give me a holler.You reach me hear or jesapi45@yahoo.com

 

[N8IAA]

If anyone in the Columbus,Ga. area, knows programming the BCD325p2,or have the program, give me a holler.You reach me hear or jesapi45@yahoo.com

You can also get FreeScan and program the radio yourself.
Larry

 

[k9advil]

Thank you very much, I looked free scan and will be using it after I get from work

 

[KI4RDO]

Thanks N8lAA,you are right, I can monitor EMS being dispatched, but no transmission from the hospital .If anyone know anyone that programs or have a program for BCD325p2 in the Columbus, GA area,give me a holler

I work at a emt in one of the metro atlanta counties and of our reports to the hospital go over our cell phones to a recorded line in the er. sorry no monitoring that one. from previous scanning you may have some luck with HEAR though wont catch everything but you will get some calls.

 

[k9advil]

EMT transmission

Thanks for the info. Everyone seem to be on the same page, nice to hear from you