Farmers Going Digital

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zzdiesel

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I was watching "This Week in Agribusiness" today and they had some radio "expert" on there pushing the wonders of digital. He said they was no dropouts or weak signals. You either heard it or you didn't. I hear weak garbled digital signals a lot on my 2 scanners.
 
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Same here. Whether P25 on our state system, EDACS ProVoice (on real PV radios, no less) or D-Star on amateur radio there are still times where the signal becomes garbled / unreadable. The sad thing is, in many cases I think a regular FM signal would still be understandable.

From my experience using D-Star, I think the pundits who push the "hear it or don't" line are basing that on a very specific test setup where the two ends are in fixed positions. That's how I first heard D-Star, as well as most of the demos online, and yes the difference between FM and digital for weak but steady signals is quite impressive.

However, have one end (or worse - BOTH) be moving at the time and you'll frequently have deep nulls that only last a short time. Either from obstructions, reflections / multipath, whatever. With FM we just hear a brief dropout or white noise that is easily overcome but with digital it can cause the decoder to lose enough data to become unintelligible garble for a fraction of a second - or worse, lose sync and take a second or two (or longer) to sync up with the data signal. (Unfortunately, when this happens on D-Star - or at least Icom's implementation - the vocoder doesn't silence the output and the listener is treated to a cacophony of bleeps and electronic sounds. Thus someone is said to be "R2D2ing again"...)

I like digital, but only in applications where it makes sense. If I want to be able to route the traffic elsewhere easily, it's a great fit. But I don't see it being very useful in the situation described, and just adds that much more complexity to the radio. (Well, I suppose it IS useful to the radio manufacturer that "expert" probably works for - they get to sell more expensive gear! -- Yeah, I'm cynical...)
 
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