Fatal School Bus Crash, East LA
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CHP handled the call for LAPD?
Two bystanders caught two people fleeing from the car that caused the crash which killed a pedestrian. 18 students were hospitalized with "non-life-threatening injuries." This is in the middle of LAPD's area, do they hand off a serious accident like this to CHP instead of handling it themselves?
Incident: 2227 Type: Possible Fatality Location: E 1ST ST AT S SOTO ST ThomasBrothers: 635 5A info as of: 10/25/2010 10:25:25 PM
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
5:58PM C15-S4 COPIES ALL TRAFFIC
5:54PM 15-40 REQ ANY AVAIL UNIT TO RESP W/PAPER WORK AND BLOOD VILE TO CALIF HOSP ER - 72 COPIES ENRT
4:23PM CORR LINE #62 - MEDIA IS SET UP AT SOTO/1ST
4:00PM CORONER 97
3:53PM PLS ROLL MAIT - 15-S13 REQ A LAPD AIR TO SHOOT PHOTOS BEGINNING 1 BLK NORTH, 1 BLOCK SOUTH, 1 BLOCK EAST AND 1 BLOCK WEST OF THE INTERSECTION AND COME UP TO THE INTERSECTION - FILM ON VEHS PRIOR TO THE INTERSECTION AND LIC PLTS OF THE VEHS
3:51PM 1039 LAPD OP 440 REFER REQ TO AIR SUPPORT WATCH COMMANDER 213-485-2600 - SAID THEY ARE NOT EQUIP BUT THEY WOULD TAKE UP CHP PERSONEL BUT CHP WOULD NEED TO RESP TO THEIR HELIPORT 1ST W/CAMERA
3:49PM NEG RESP FRM 15-40 LINE #35, 39
3:45PM 1039 LAPD OP 440 ADSV THEIR AIR SHIPS ARE OHEAD - DO U WANT THEM TO TAKE AIR SHOTS OR KEEP H58 ENRT?
3:44PM H58 ENRT ETA 20
3:39PM LINE #29 FOR ONE AT THIS TIME
3:39PM 1039 CENTRAL PAO
3:37PM CORR LINE #27 PER 10M LAPD HAS SCENE SHUT DOWN AT SOTO AT MICHIGAN
3:36PM INTERSECTION IS BLOCKED ALL DIRECTIONS
3:33PM 40 REQ ADDITIONAL UNITS TO ASSIST W/THE TC
3:32PM 1039 LAPD OP 823 ENRT FOR TRFC CONTROL
3:29PM ANY LANES BLOCKED,CT-TMC
*** CHP units have been coming and going to the scene all afternoon and evening, these are the most recent***
6:27PM CHP Unit On Scene
6:37PM CHP Unit Enroute
6:51PM CHP Unit On Scene
6:53PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:00PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:02PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:03PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:42PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:46PM CHP Unit On Scene
8:45PM CHP Unit On Scene
10:35PM CHP Unit On Scene
Two bystanders caught two people fleeing from the car that caused the crash which killed a pedestrian. 18 students were hospitalized with "non-life-threatening injuries." This is in the middle of LAPD's area, do they hand off a serious accident like this to CHP instead of handling it themselves?
Incident: 2227 Type: Possible Fatality Location: E 1ST ST AT S SOTO ST ThomasBrothers: 635 5A info as of: 10/25/2010 10:25:25 PM
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
5:58PM C15-S4 COPIES ALL TRAFFIC
5:54PM 15-40 REQ ANY AVAIL UNIT TO RESP W/PAPER WORK AND BLOOD VILE TO CALIF HOSP ER - 72 COPIES ENRT
4:23PM CORR LINE #62 - MEDIA IS SET UP AT SOTO/1ST
4:00PM CORONER 97
3:53PM PLS ROLL MAIT - 15-S13 REQ A LAPD AIR TO SHOOT PHOTOS BEGINNING 1 BLK NORTH, 1 BLOCK SOUTH, 1 BLOCK EAST AND 1 BLOCK WEST OF THE INTERSECTION AND COME UP TO THE INTERSECTION - FILM ON VEHS PRIOR TO THE INTERSECTION AND LIC PLTS OF THE VEHS
3:51PM 1039 LAPD OP 440 REFER REQ TO AIR SUPPORT WATCH COMMANDER 213-485-2600 - SAID THEY ARE NOT EQUIP BUT THEY WOULD TAKE UP CHP PERSONEL BUT CHP WOULD NEED TO RESP TO THEIR HELIPORT 1ST W/CAMERA
3:49PM NEG RESP FRM 15-40 LINE #35, 39
3:45PM 1039 LAPD OP 440 ADSV THEIR AIR SHIPS ARE OHEAD - DO U WANT THEM TO TAKE AIR SHOTS OR KEEP H58 ENRT?
3:44PM H58 ENRT ETA 20
3:39PM LINE #29 FOR ONE AT THIS TIME
3:39PM 1039 CENTRAL PAO
3:37PM CORR LINE #27 PER 10M LAPD HAS SCENE SHUT DOWN AT SOTO AT MICHIGAN
3:36PM INTERSECTION IS BLOCKED ALL DIRECTIONS
3:33PM 40 REQ ADDITIONAL UNITS TO ASSIST W/THE TC
3:32PM 1039 LAPD OP 823 ENRT FOR TRFC CONTROL
3:29PM ANY LANES BLOCKED,CT-TMC
*** CHP units have been coming and going to the scene all afternoon and evening, these are the most recent***
6:27PM CHP Unit On Scene
6:37PM CHP Unit Enroute
6:51PM CHP Unit On Scene
6:53PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:00PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:02PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:03PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:42PM CHP Unit On Scene
7:46PM CHP Unit On Scene
8:45PM CHP Unit On Scene
10:35PM CHP Unit On Scene
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Radio_Lady
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No, LAPD and CHP investigate traffic collisions within their respective jurisdictions, but they will often assist with traffic control at each others' calls.
Certain school bus collisions fall by law under the CHP's jurisdiction no matter where they occur, and this one in Hollenbeck Division is one of those. Vehicle Code section 12517.1:
(a) A "schoolbus accident" means any of the following:
(1) A motor vehicle accident resulting in property damage in
excess of seven hundred fifty dollars ($750) or personal injury, on
public or private property, and involving a schoolbus, youth bus,
school pupil activity bus, or general public paratransit vehicle
transporting a pupil.
(2) A collision between a vehicle and a pupil or a schoolbus
driver while the pupil or driver is crossing the highway when the
schoolbus flashing red signal lamps are required to be operated
pursuant to Section 22112.
(3) Injury of a pupil inside a vehicle described in paragraph (1)
as a result of acceleration, deceleration, or other movement of the
vehicle.
(b) The Department of the California Highway Patrol shall
investigate all schoolbus accidents, except that accidents involving
only property damage and occurring entirely on private property shall
be investigated only if they involve a violation of this code.
(1) A motor vehicle accident resulting in property damage in
excess of seven hundred fifty dollars ($750) or personal injury, on
public or private property, and involving a schoolbus, youth bus,
school pupil activity bus, or general public paratransit vehicle
transporting a pupil.
(2) A collision between a vehicle and a pupil or a schoolbus
driver while the pupil or driver is crossing the highway when the
schoolbus flashing red signal lamps are required to be operated
pursuant to Section 22112.
(3) Injury of a pupil inside a vehicle described in paragraph (1)
as a result of acceleration, deceleration, or other movement of the
vehicle.
(b) The Department of the California Highway Patrol shall
investigate all schoolbus accidents, except that accidents involving
only property damage and occurring entirely on private property shall
be investigated only if they involve a violation of this code.
LAPD's Department Manual echoes that from their perspective at section 415.05:
"The investigation of school bus traffic collisions by officers of this Department shall be limited to those accidents that are within the Department's standard traffic collision reporting policy when the involved school bus was not transporting students or actively loading or unloading students at the time of the accident. Department personnel at the scene of a school bus traffic collision which is not the investigative responsibility of this Department shall notify the CHP and stand by until CHP personnel arrive."
Notice the 3:53 PM request to "PLS ROLL MAIT" - M.A.I.T. are CHP's expert "Multidisciplinary Accident Investigation Teams". LAPD has similar a similar group of traffic officers on their S.C.I.D. "Specialized Collision Investigation Details". Also mentioned at Traffic Coordination Section - Specialized Collision Investigation Detail
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must be a lady....
cause she didnt listen to what was said ....
cause she didnt listen to what was said ....
Huh? Who didn't listen? Me, Radio Lady, the CHP dispatcher? Is it only women who don't listen?
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