FBI investigation determined Chinese-made Huawei equipment could disrupt US nuclear arsenal communications

[blantonl]

Washington (CNN)On paper, it looked like a fantastic deal. In 2017, the Chinese government was offering to spend $100 million to build an ornate Chinese garden at the National Arboretum in Washington DC. Complete with temples, pavilions and a 70-foot white pagoda, the project thrilled local officials, who hoped it would attract thousands of tourists every year.

But when US counterintelligence officials began digging into the details, they found numerous red flags. The pagoda, they noted, would have been strategically placed on one of the highest points in Washington DC, just two miles from the US Capitol, a perfect spot for signals intelligence collection, multiple sources familiar with the episode told CNN.

CNN Exclusive: FBI investigation determined Chinese-made Huawei equipment could disrupt US nuclear arsenal communications

On paper, it looked like a fantastic deal. In 2017, the Chinese government was offering to spend $100 million to build an ornate Chinese garden at the National Arboretum in Washington DC. Complete with temples, pavilions and a 70-foot white pagoda, the project thrilled local officials, who hoped...

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[Tech1]

Holy Cow.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Those Chinese. Such copy cats! How dare they! The nerve!

The Capenhurst Phone-Tap Tower

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Glenn Greenwald: how the NSA tampers with US-made internet routers

The NSA has been covertly implanting interception tools in US servers heading overseas – even though the US government has warned against using Chinese technology for the same reasons, says Glenn Greenwald, in an extract from his new book about the Snowden affair, No Place to Hide

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Monopoly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

 

[Giddyuptd]

Yet we still manufacture everything under their roof. Time we bring that all back home.

 

[KK4JUG]

Why am I not surprised?

 

[popnokick]

If this post interests you, you'll find this book by BG Robert Spalding nteresting as well -
https://smile.amazon.com/Stealth-Wa...swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1658673762&sr=1-1

 

[iMONITOR]

I feared repercussions of having our Communist enemies manufacture and build our security and military products all my life. Who ever thought that was a good idea to do that?

When I worked for Computer Science at General Dynamics and realized how much of our military fighting machines such as tanks and fighter jets we sold to our enemies I asked what if they turned them all against us? I hoped we would have built-in some kind of dooms-day device that would the U.S. to turn off or disable them in the event of war so they would not be able to be used against us. They claim they did not. Looks like the Chinese were a little smarter than us!

 

[brcoz]

I remember when we were told Huawei phones were not allowed on our network due to security issues.

 

[iMONITOR]

I remember when we were told Huawei phones were not allowed on our network due to security issues.

Yup!

 

[paulears]

Paranoia reigns supreme. Every high point is already served with all kinds of antennas, and looking at google earth, the embassies are all tall, and have antennas and are on high ground? This sounds pretty scaremongery really? The National Arboretum in Washington DC is in a dip? Not even near anything interesting that Google can see? The embassy's are all near other interesting buildings?

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

If this post interests you, you'll find this book by BG Robert Spalding nteresting as well -
https://smile.amazon.com/Stealth-Wa...swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1658673762&sr=1-1

We, and by we, I mean greedy corporate America , did this to themselves. Outsourcing everything, H1B Visa's , etc. Disney fired their entire IT team and brought on foreign contractors under H1B. I don't see how we can blame China for getting in the door.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Paranoia reigns supreme. Every high point is already served with all kinds of antennas, and looking at google earth, the embassies are all tall, and have antennas and are on high ground? This sounds pretty scaremongery really? The National Arboretum in Washington DC is in a dip? Not even near anything interesting that Google can see? The embassy's are all near other interesting buildings?

I don't see why the Chinese have to build a 100 million dollar shrine to gain a high observation point over the capitol. There are several ridges with office complexes and apartments. Paranoia is rampant.

Funny story.
I was involved in planning a microwave path in DC. I ordinarily sub contract the path survey to a gal who has done this for decades under ATT and now out on her own. She also is a private pilot which means she flys herself and her gear from Texas to wherever. So for this particular project my ex boss (an Iranian) here in Florida decides that he will go meet her there to "supervise" and drags with him his head engineer, a young bearded guy, who looks perhaps "middle eastern" if you squint, (By the way She needs no supervision, its all about billable hour$$.) So part of the path survey includes climbing towers, rooftops etc with a spotting scope. She gets permission to check out the rooftop of this building on the ridge above DC. Someone gets suspicious of this trio and writes down the rental license plate and calls Homeland Security. License plate gets tracked to a small General Aviation airfield outside DC, and then to my freind the pilot. Obviously the FBI wants to know why someone perhaps along with two Iranians has flown a private plane from Texas to DC avoiding TSA etc, to go on the roof of a building above DC with spotting scopes. I get a call from her about this incident and she is pretty shook up and wants to know all about my ex boss.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

I feared repercussions of having our Communist enemies manufacture and build our security and military products all my life. Who ever thought that was a good idea to do that?

When I worked for Computer Science at General Dynamics and realized how much of our military fighting machines such as tanks and fighter jets we sold to our enemies I asked what if they turned them all against us? I hoped we would have built-in some kind of dooms-day device that would the U.S. to turn off or disable them in the event of war so they would not be able to be used against us. They claim they did not. Looks like the Chinese were a little smarter than us!

Weapons systems are our largest export. I asked someone in the defense business same question. Is there a kill switch? Nope.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

If this post interests you, you'll find this book by BG Robert Spalding nteresting as well -
https://smile.amazon.com/Stealth-Wa...swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1658673762&sr=1-1

On the subject of electronic espionage:

"CHATTER" By Patrick Radden Keefe.
"Deep Black" By William Burrows.

These two books pre date the Edward Snowden leaks. Nothing Snowden revealed was not already suspected in intelligence community. Snowden simply provided the Power Point presentation.

 

[popnokick]

Someone gets suspicious of this trio and writes down the rental license plate and calls Homeland Security.

"If you see something, say something." Someone apparently did think they saw something.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

"If you see something, say something." Someone apparently did think they saw something.

Years ago I could flash my Motorola badge and go onto any roof including Sears/ Willis tower. I would just get waved toward the elevator. Nothing was ever locked. If it was, the company key went everywhere. Once I was standing on the roof of Sears and mused that I was standing higher than everyone around. Then I heard a welder spark his torch way above me on one of the pylons.

 

[captainmax1]

Good that someone in the FBI had the sense to stop this. The Chinese communists have been playing American politicians as fools in so many ways for decades and look where it has gotten us.

 

[Mikejo]

Weapons systems are our largest export. I asked someone in the defense business same question. Is there a kill switch? Nope.

hi, don’t worry about it, the Chinese probably put them in there for us… They’ll turn all our stuff off!

 

[Giddyuptd]

Correct. Anyone with history knows communists have long term goals well beyond their existing leaders as most are families or close acquaintances. To them a paper means nothing on treaty or agreements. They'd smile play poker face to come out a end long goal.

Its sad our elected or simple minded side of country doesn't understand this. Between that and sell outs in our elected systems to corporations making a extra dollar whom sell out major changes need to occur on Many levels at home.

I don't care what anyone says it isn't hard for a elected person or hire to pass a background in America and have side goals or sell out actions with the lie paper agreements they believe in.

Sadly we live in a far too long discussion for this board on the issues.

But definitely we need to bring home all our industry and worry about here first over anyone else. In sense things such as nafta one can look at and see communist influence goals were behind it and some whom sold out.

One can say a elected officials or ceo wouldn't make his grandkids life hard. What does he care? He won't be around but while he is or she is and their spouse they live like a hog. The rest is others problem and choices to make.

I feared repercussions of having our Communist enemies manufacture and build our security and military products all my life. Who ever thought that was a good idea to do that?

When I worked for Computer Science at General Dynamics and realized how much of our military fighting machines such as tanks and fighter jets we sold to our enemies I asked what if they turned them all against us? I hoped we would have built-in some kind of dooms-day device that would the U.S. to turn off or disable them in the event of war so they would not be able to be used against us. They claim they did not. Looks like the Chinese were a little smarter than us!

 

[Giddyuptd]

Weapons systems are our largest export. I asked someone in the defense business same question. Is there a kill switch? Nope.

Sad isn't it. It goes with what I said many years our system has believed in paper and thr communsit long term goal will smile poker face their way all day in end goal of long term well beyond anyone living today.