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joerobb23

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ok ty everyone screaming yesterday in blogs when members were hurt and unfortunately one died thanks people pushing for encryption
 

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Firegrounds are not allowed to use encryption per NFPA standards… if a dept within a certain agency (military/DoD on occasion) chooses to encrypt their own in house fireground talkgroup/channel; they must have other means for unencrypted interoperability (local area/county) conventional methods of communications also programmed for mutual aid purposes
 

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I think what they are talikng about in the blogs is that the fireground goes through a futurecom repeater to the trunk system, It used to be in the clear and you could hear all the fire ground activity world wide on a scanner app, but because the media started playing it on TV they encrypted it
While it was up I loved listening to it
 

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I think what they are talikng about in the blogs is that the fireground goes through a futurecom repeater to the trunk system, It used to be in the clear and you could hear all the fire ground activity world wide on a scanner app, but because the media started playing it on TV they encrypted it
While it was up I loved listening to it
Oh yeah fireground rebroadcasts are another story… those are fair game to being encrypted or not.. and yeah Port Authority PD went completely encrypted after the escaped inmate on tarmac (forgot where exactly; JFK or LGA) incident… the media immediately played recordings of radio traffic from the escape to recapture..
 

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Port Authority PD went completely encrypted after the escaped inmate on tarmac (forgot where exactly; JFK or LGA) incident… the media immediately played recordings of radio traffic from the escape to recapture..

Not to be petty, but for historic purposes: it was JFK where the prisoner escaped. He was a convicted criminal who was being repatriated back to his home country after serving a sentence in the U.S. Him, and two Immigration Agents were waiting for the boarding of the plane at the gate. The prisoner was not cuffed. He asked the Agents if he could go to the bathroom, and they said, go ahead.

Instead of going to the bathroom, he walked right out the front door of the terminal (not on the ramp (or "ramp side"), which is the proper airport terminology for that area where the airplanes are parked...not "tarmac"), got into a yellow taxi cab, and took off.

After about 15 minutes, the agents got suspicious:unsure:, at which time they, themselves, conducted a search, to no avail. It was only after that 15 or 20 minutes that they notified the Port Authority Police.

When the PA finally met up with the agents, the officers notified their police desk via radio of what transpired before they arrived. By that time, the escapee was, as they say, "in the wind..."

Someone monitoring the PAPD at JFK sent it out, practically verbatim, over one of the paging services, from which the press got, not only all the info...including the delay of notifying the PAPD....but some terminology used by the PA police over the radio describing the overall situation as described over the radio. It was the lead story on all the 2300 hr news shows, while the reporters were reading the info off their cell phones.

While the PAPD were in the process of "upgrading" their system, they immediately pushed for total encryption of all police systems, and ASAP.

About a week or so later, the escapee was apprehended in Chicago.

And that was the end of that....!
 

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Not to be petty, but for historic purposes: it was JFK where the prisoner escaped. He was a convicted criminal who was being repatriated back to his home country after serving a sentence in the U.S. Him, and two Immigration Agents were waiting for the boarding of the plane at the gate. The prisoner was not cuffed. He asked the Agents if he could go to the bathroom, and they said, go ahead.

Instead of going to the bathroom, he walked right out the front door of the terminal (not on the ramp (or "ramp side"), which is the proper airport terminology for that area where the airplanes are parked...not "tarmac"), got into a yellow taxi cab, and took off.

After about 15 minutes, the agents got suspicious:unsure:, at which time they, themselves, conducted a search, to no avail. It was only after that 15 or 20 minutes that they notified the Port Authority Police.

When the PA finally met up with the agents, the officers notified their police desk via radio of what transpired before they arrived. By that time, the escapee was, as they say, "in the wind..."

Someone monitoring the PAPD at JFK sent it out, practically verbatim, over one of the paging services, from which the press got, not only all the info...including the delay of notifying the PAPD....but some terminology used by the PA police over the radio describing the overall situation as described over the radio. It was the lead story on all the 2300 hr news shows, while the reporters were reading the info off their cell phones.

While the PAPD were in the process of "upgrading" their system, they immediately pushed for total encryption of all police systems, and ASAP.

About a week or so later, the escapee was apprehended in Chicago.

And that was the end of that....!
Haha you’re not being petty.. we all share knowledge… you forgot to mention the year tho haha 🧐
 
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