Tom07
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I wonder if AOR is planning anymore firmware updates? What else could they add, or what else is possible? Or is thst updates finished? What's your thoughts?
AR-DV1 Firmware
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The older the radio, the less likely you are to get updates. New features are often limited by the electronics, as in the GRE scanners, and only fixes for unseen problems in normal operation are usually a concern. Some companies are also better at keeping up than others.
Tom07
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Is the dv1 about six or seven years now. Could be limited to new things i suppose
MStep
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I believe that it was about a year ago that they added some Tetra features, but that was a paid upgrade that was not useful for me.
If my recollection is correct, they once hinted at adding P25 Phase 2 decoding, but that never came to fruition to my knowledge. Or did I miss something? This was discussed years ago, here:
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If my recollection is correct, they once hinted at adding P25 Phase 2 decoding, but that never came to fruition to my knowledge. Or did I miss something? This was discussed years ago, here:
AOR DV1 and P25 Phase 1 & 2
My research has shown my that the DV1 is not a trunking-type scanner. But I am interested in it anyway. I have the Uniden portable 436 and looking for monitoring digital amateur radio modes and P25 Phase 1 and Phase 2. I see that Phase 2 isnt done right now by the radio. Does anyone know...
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MStep
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Postscript to Above:
Of course, I left out one of the more obvious "features", but sadly, this does not appear to be in the arsenal of AOR. And that, of course, is "trunking".
As mentioned above, and in other posts here in the forum, AOR did some tricks to make the DV1 (and DV10) more versatile with Tetra signals by adding GSSI functions. (See other threads for information about that.)
I don't think the hardware can support a trunking function, unless AOR has some clever tricks up its sleeve. And it certainly would not be worth it to require a hardware upgrade to the DV series, considering that Uniden makes entirely capable trucking receivers in their SDS and earlier x36 scanners. Those radios are available at half the cost of the DV1.
Of course, I left out one of the more obvious "features", but sadly, this does not appear to be in the arsenal of AOR. And that, of course, is "trunking".
As mentioned above, and in other posts here in the forum, AOR did some tricks to make the DV1 (and DV10) more versatile with Tetra signals by adding GSSI functions. (See other threads for information about that.)
I don't think the hardware can support a trunking function, unless AOR has some clever tricks up its sleeve. And it certainly would not be worth it to require a hardware upgrade to the DV series, considering that Uniden makes entirely capable trucking receivers in their SDS and earlier x36 scanners. Those radios are available at half the cost of the DV1.
Ubbe
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No extra hardware needed. When it decodes a GSSI it presents it on display and monitor it from that frequency. When in trunking mode it decodes from the control channel and besides the GSSI it also gets the frequency of the call and switch it's receiver to that new frequency and decodes in the same way as in non-trunked mode. When the call ends it returns to the control channel. It's a couple of more lines of software code.
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well i'd like to figure out how to fix the p-25 breaks up all the time. no matter signal strength..hardly ever hear a complete call.
MStep
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Good point. I guess it was worth it for them to try that with Tetra trunking, since Uniden scanners do not do Tetra. But but perhaps not financially feasible for them to write and sell the code for P25 or other modes that the Uniden scanners already do so well.
Further discussion and comments found here:
NEW FIRMWARE UPDATE FOR THE AR-DV1 AS OF 19 FEBRUARY 2021
IMPLICATIONS OF AOR ADDING TRUNKING TO THE DV1 - 19/02/21 Firmware Update AR-DV1 Firmware update v2101C, feature improvements: - TETRA GSSI user group filtering “PRO” feature. Optional function. To activate this “PRO” feature, please purchase an activation key at: https://www.aordirect.jp/...
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Ubbe
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AOR needs to do much more for their paying users than spending 10 minutes in adding a tetra trunk function. A database with TG's for each system needs to be on the SD card with name tags and a flag for each TG that signals that it is locked out and should not be monitored. A couple of lines extra code that's already paid for.
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Ubbe,
You know better than to even think that AOR or Icom will invest any more attention to their current or past models. They get your money and rock on to the next marketing latest and greatest, only being the same model, you have with a few modes or 'bells and whistles"
You know better than to even think that AOR or Icom will invest any more attention to their current or past models. They get your money and rock on to the next marketing latest and greatest, only being the same model, you have with a few modes or 'bells and whistles"
MStep
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When most seasoned veterans of the hobby buy a receiver, I think they pretty much know that "what they see if what they get". Despite promises and hints of great things to come, those who have been around the block know that things may or may not come to fruition, and that we should never expect more than what we are presented with.
A great example of that was the introduction of the Icom 8600. Everyone was shocked that Icom did not include DMR decoding, yet many bought the radio anyway, thinking that Icom would add the function via firmware at some future date. Of course, that never happened.
I think both you guys are right in a certain respect--- as Ubbe suggests, AOR probably could have done more with the $100 USD Tetra upgrade, although I have not heard many complaints from those that did do the paid update. And Vince is certainly on point--- once you have purchased the product, there is generally nothing to require that the manufacturer give you any more than you paid for.
I'm very happy with my DV1--- I did my homework and got exactly what I expected some 6 or so years ago. And if AOR has a few more tricks up their sleeve, all the better.
A great example of that was the introduction of the Icom 8600. Everyone was shocked that Icom did not include DMR decoding, yet many bought the radio anyway, thinking that Icom would add the function via firmware at some future date. Of course, that never happened.
I think both you guys are right in a certain respect--- as Ubbe suggests, AOR probably could have done more with the $100 USD Tetra upgrade, although I have not heard many complaints from those that did do the paid update. And Vince is certainly on point--- once you have purchased the product, there is generally nothing to require that the manufacturer give you any more than you paid for.
I'm very happy with my DV1--- I did my homework and got exactly what I expected some 6 or so years ago. And if AOR has a few more tricks up their sleeve, all the better.
Strange as it may seem there is a new and unexpected factor making its mark.
The severe drop in the manufacture / availability of semiconductors is obviously causing the big Radio producers to re-think.
Icom announced the discontinuing of their R30 handheld. Yaesu have done the same AR-DV10. Under normal circumstances very unlikely moves. It remains to be seen but other Models may well begin to suffer as component stocks and production runs dwindle.
This will put the Manufacturers in a difficult financial situation, for a time at least, but ONE way of getting some income will be to introduce 'paid for' Firmware upgrades re. existing equipment.
AOR have never charged previously, but they are now (a big amount) for the DV1 and DV10 upgrades. Who knows even the' NO DMR' diehards at Icom may relent, just to make some much needed money.
If the Manufacturers cannot produce or supply new or existing Models because of the semiconductor shortage, they will have few options left in order to survive, and one they could have would be charging existing Customers for new and regular Firmware upgrades.
The severe drop in the manufacture / availability of semiconductors is obviously causing the big Radio producers to re-think.
Icom announced the discontinuing of their R30 handheld. Yaesu have done the same AR-DV10. Under normal circumstances very unlikely moves. It remains to be seen but other Models may well begin to suffer as component stocks and production runs dwindle.
This will put the Manufacturers in a difficult financial situation, for a time at least, but ONE way of getting some income will be to introduce 'paid for' Firmware upgrades re. existing equipment.
AOR have never charged previously, but they are now (a big amount) for the DV1 and DV10 upgrades. Who knows even the' NO DMR' diehards at Icom may relent, just to make some much needed money.
If the Manufacturers cannot produce or supply new or existing Models because of the semiconductor shortage, they will have few options left in order to survive, and one they could have would be charging existing Customers for new and regular Firmware upgrades.
What about the Graveley voice sound on some DMR overs that would be a help.
Tom07
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Yes i know what you're saying with voice quality. I struggle sometimes to understand DMR transmissions. Not only on AOR but also on other brands and Motorola handhelds included. DMR sounds slurish, robotic and blasts in loud one minute and low the next. But thats Digital
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