G5 paging on p25

[mdsxfire]

Was wondering if something different/specific has to be done on the console to actually activate the pager with the tones over the p25 TG, and how to program the knob to do it. My current programming for my FD has knob one programmed with only our FD TGs, if I wanted to program a knob with only the dispatch TG with our 2tone dispatch tones where do they got
We are currently dispatched on VHF, everything else in done on the new system, but the tones are broadcast over the p25 dispatch TG.
Thanks


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[troymail]

Take a look at David's video on paging setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SXdjkRFKHU

FYI - in my area, they page over conventional VHF (which works fine on the G5) and it is patched to a P25 talkgroup - in my situation, the G5 2-tone alerting does not work over P25.

 

[mdsxfire]

Take a look at David's video on paging setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SXdjkRFKHU

FYI - in my area, they page over conventional VHF (which works fine on the G5) and it is patched to a P25 talkgroup - in my situation, the G5 2-tone alerting does not work over P25.

Ok so the same tones that come over vhf will not work patched into the p25 TG


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[troymail]

Ok so the same tones that come over vhf will not work patched into the p25 TG


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I won't say it won't work in all cases - just wouldn't work in my situation.

If the tones sounds clear (pure) on VHF but don't sound the same over P25, it may not work.

Pure tones over P25 probably work just fine.

 

[ffexpCP]

Not all tones will work. Somewhere there is a list of approved p25 tones. I believe it has to do with looser tolerances due to the vocoder no exactly replicating them.

And then reliability probably also depends on how the system is built. A console mult-select will probably work better vs a audio gateway somewhere.

 

[ffexpCP]

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/9bbbf0_fb7f940d53f04c8086cf4e99784d25e6.pdf

 

[djewel6]

I know in VA Pittsylvania County's Broadcastify feed of their trunk P25 system has a bad habit of cutting off the A tone sometimes for a few departments (primarily Sq 12 Chatham Rescue is the biggest victim). My advice would be to stick to the VHF paging so you aren't missing calls for your department.. Theres a reason why FTO on Unidens is still traditionally programmed

 

[mdsxfire]

I know in VA Pittsylvania County's Broadcastify feed of their trunk P25 system has a bad habit of cutting off the A tone sometimes for a few departments (primarily Sq 12 Chatham Rescue is the biggest victim). My advice would be to stick to the VHF paging so you aren't missing calls for your department.. Theres a reason why FTO on Unidens is still traditionally programmed

I carry my G5 around most of the time now, if I am out somewhere I don’t want a lot of noise I leave it on knob 1 which is only my FD TGs and leave it up enough to hear our tones, we lost our secondary tone that sounded like a spaceship when we switched over to the Harris system so now it just puts the tones out twice back to back.
My point with this was I have heard a few times a part of one of the tones be cut off or dropped, my g5 doesn’t have the tones programmed in to alert so I don’t know if it affect last the ability for the pager to alert consistently.


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