G5 scanning two systems

[picscan]

Okay, so in Sacramento they have the sheriff on two different systems so is one being phased out? I've heard the G5 doesn't do Smart Zone, so if I get one will it be useless when they do phase out the old P25? Confusing.

Sacramento Regional Radio Communications System (SRRCS)
Motorola Type II SmartZone Sheriff
Sacramento Regional Radio Communications System (SRRCS) P25
Project 25 Phase I

 

[ScanWI]

Well no it will be useless until they are on the P25 system. They are leaving the SmartZone System it has been unsupported by Motorola for some time.


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[Webodisk]

It will not work the old system, it will only work on P25 systems


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[picscan]

Oh, okay I think. I thought the new system was the Smart Zone? If Smart Zone is the old system why does my scanner have the old one programmed in?

 

[N6ML]

I guess the confusion might be that "Type II" sounds newer than "Phase I", but they're completely different systems. SmartZone is the old/obsolete one.

I can hear the SRRCS Twitchell Island site on my G5 here in Brentwood. Just heard SO on talkgroup 3847.

 

[ScanWI]

Nope that is the old system


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[picscan]

Oh okay, I had the new one programmed at first and I removed it because it sounded so bad and put the Smart Zone in and it works better on my TRX-1. Is the new one DMR because that's what it was coming across like, sounded like everyone was either foreign or drunk. So it's safe to get G5 for this area then? Back to the drawing board.

 

[N6ML]

Here's a quick clip. No audio until ~28 seconds in. I need to learn how to edit video some day

 

[picscan]

Yes, I'd say that's a bit better than mine Thank you.

 

[N6ML]

Oh okay, I had the new one programmed at first and I removed it because it sounded so bad and put the Smart Zone in and it works better on my TRX-1. Is the new one DMR because that's what it was coming across like, sounded like everyone was either foreign or drunk. So it's safe to get G5 for this area then? Back to the drawing board.

It's P25, not DMR.

Assuming you're on the simulcast site, the TRX-1, and any scanner other than the Uniden SDS100/200 will likely struggle with simulcast - it may work fine in some locations, but be broken/garbled most of the time. It's a well-known problem. The G4/5 works great on simulcast. You should be aware that it is not a scanner, though, so it may or may not be the right solution for you, depending on your use-case. In my opinion, the G4/G5 work best when you want to focus on a fairly small set of talkgroups (at a time) on a single P25 system.

 

[picscan]

Thanks, yes, all I really want is local fire, sheriff and pd, I usually only listen to about 8 talk groups around here, it would be nice to take to work and use the TRX-1 for everything else. So when programming the G5 if I just go down the line and add talk groups will the name of the group be automatically figured out or do I have to add the name and all information?

 

[N2YQT]

When you start listening to the digital modes more the voice will start to sound more natural. Your brain adapts to fill in the holes sorta speak.

 

[sparklehorse]

Thanks, yes, all I really want is local fire, sheriff and pd, I usually only listen to about 8 talk groups around here, it would be nice to take to work and use the TRX-1 for everything else. So when programming the G5 if I just go down the line and add talk groups will the name of the group be automatically figured out or do I have to add the name and all information?

You have to enter every little detail into the software program manually. Well, you can copy and paste, but you get the idea: the Unication software does not draw data from an online source like your EZScan program does for the TRX-1. So you can name your talkgroups whatever you like but there is a character limit of 15 characters I believe.

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[N6ML]

You have to enter every little detail into the software program manually. Well, you can copy and paste, but you get the idea: the Unication software does not draw data from an online source like your EZScan program does for the TRX-1. So you can name your talkgroups whatever you like but there is a character limit of 15 characters I believe.

PPS 0.3.14 (currently in beta) does allow importing of talkgroups and P25 system frequencies from CSV files exported from RadioReference. It's limited to 512 talkgroups per import, though.

 

[scannerboy02]

Also be aware that SRRCS is currently using an audio bridge between the analog and digital systems so if a user is talking on the analog system the audio will sound distorted on the digital system and if they are talking on the digital system it will sound distorted on the analog system. This should go away after everyone switches to the digital system.

The LSM issues for scanners will likely remain a problem though. The Unications are the best solution I have found for that issue.

 

[picscan]

Great, thanks