HARRIS XG-100 PROGRAMMING RPM14 software

[lbd1123]

Hello Everyone !
I currently use Uniden sentinel software which has been a bit challenging for me, after figuring out the how to program the scanner it works fine now. However I want clearer audio and would like to use an all band radio.

Question how difficult is the XG-100 to program ?

I want the following system to be programmed in the radio

Phase 1 800Mhz Motorola p25 (receive only)
Phase 2 800Mhz Motorola p25 (receive only)
Phase 2 700Mhz Motorola p25 (receive only)
Phase 2 Harris 800Mhz p25 (receive only)
Phase 1 Harris 800Mhz p25 (receive only)

FRS/GMRS Transmit and Receive
Business VHF/UHF Transmit and Receive
Marine Transmit and receive
Railroad Receive only


Thanks

 

[Forts]

Well... you need to know all the ins and outs of how radios are programmed for trunking systems and how RPM functions as a whole. This will require knowing IDEN tables, Site IDs & NACs, SYSIds etc... it's a lot more work than a scanner, that's for sure. I know we all started somewhere with our first radio but I'm not sure this would be a great place to get started. The software will be difficult to obtain. Programming cable... same thing, however you can program over Bluetooth (mostly... My 100p refuses to connect to the BT on my PC at work) and above all else, you need to know what you are doing in order to prevent the radio from being able to register on the system and transmit.

 

[lbd1123]

Thank you for your in site, Question what would the radio do if it was zapped ? would someone be able to use to the radio again if it was zapped ?

 

[Forts]

Typically, no.... But... Can it be un-inhibited? Technically yes, but it would require a lot of explaining to the system administrator that zapped it.

 

[twl911]

So, I have very similar question.

I am very comfortable programming Motorola(to include XTS series NAS), Kenwood, and Vertex radios. I've recently been strongly considering purchasing a XG-100P for mostly scanning mostly analog VHF and UHF with a single radio, but also have a single 800 P25 trunked system i may wish to monitor infrequently.

I do have RPM R10B07 and R14C07 available, I have looked around in R14C07 without a codeplug, or mission plan I guess Harris calls it , to play with. From what I have seen thus far I am holding off on purchasing a radio because honestly I can't figure out the software.

Would things become easier for me once I have an actual radio atatched, or should I give up and stick with what I know?

 

[Forts]

Having the radio attached won't make any difference. The help file in RPM however is, well, quite helpful.

 

[merlin]

You are in for a serious learning curve with this, much like your scanner but different.
My best suggestion is start simple like with just a single system then build over time.
Took me 6 months programming NAS for my one local site.

 

[IFRIED91]

You are in for a serious learning curve with this, much like your scanner but different.
My best suggestion is start simple like with just a single system then build over time.
Took me 6 months programming NAS for my one local site.

And then not to mention learning the exact theory of operations between proscan, dynamic proscan and enhanced Cc scan… btw off topic… is the ProScan on Harris anywhere related or have anything to do with the ProScan software for scanners that’s talked about? This could be a big lawsuit/royalty entitlement if the Harris legal time find out

 

[Forts]

No they aren't related at all. Harris ProScan is their roaming scheme what was originally for networked EDACS systems, then P25 as well (moreso with Enhanced CC).

 

[lbd1123]

You are in for a serious learning curve with this, much like your scanner but different.
My best suggestion is start simple like with just a single system then build over time.
Took me 6 months programming NAS for my one local site.

Wow I thought it would be easy

 

[Forts]

Wow 6 months seems kind of out there, considering NAS on a Harris radio doesn't require anything special to be done. It's miles easier and less time consuming than doing it on a Moto radio.

 

[BMDaug]

I bought an xg100p with a couple of basic, purpose built mission plans already installed. One for NAS of trunked systems and a second for wide/narrow/p25 conventional fpp. I extracted the mission plans into rpm and used them as a starting point. It was very helpful to feel the flow and experience the relationship between systems, zones, and sets on the hardware before creating my own mission plans (often using those mission plans as templates).

The seller really made the radio much more valuable by loading those basic fpp mission plans as part of the sale. It made the radio useful straight out of the box and made for a great learning tool!

Now I am pretty comfortable programming, even though I still have to reference the built in help docs regularly to remind me what all the check boxes do!

-Brian

 

[IFRIED91]

I bought an xg100p with a couple of basic, purpose built mission plans already installed. One for NAS of trunked systems and a second for wide/narrow/p25 conventional fpp. I extracted the mission plans into rpm and used them as a starting point. It was very helpful to feel the flow and experience the relationship between systems, zones, and sets on the hardware before creating my own mission plans (often using those mission plans as templates).

The seller really made the radio much more valuable by loading those basic fpp mission plans as part of the sale. It made the radio useful straight out of the box and made for a great learning tool!

Now I am pretty comfortable programming, even though I still have to reference the built in help docs regularly to remind me what all the check boxes do!

-Brian

Basically you ensure all tx boxes are unchecked, site registration never, emergency tx unchecked, (you can have emergency audio and disp on and the radio will just alert u very loud on any received emergencies..) the and most difficult hurdles are iden tables for UHF/VHF OTB (out of band) trunking systems as their control channels usually don’t tx the IDEN data and being radio only a system admin would know the exact shift/frequencies.. there’s a way to Calculate it yourself but still those values can be anything

 

[lbd1123]

When programming the XG-100 do you know if I use the DEC of HEX ?

 

[IFRIED91]

When programming the XG-100 do you know if I use the DEC of HEX ?

It would say it next to the box

 

[motorcoachdoug]

Ok time to throw my hat into the ring. I have 2 harris xg100P and 1 Harris XG/M7300 that I am using to monitor here in montgomery county , md plus the whole dc metro area. I can do codeplug aka mission plan or help you learn if you would like just shoot me a PM. If you are going to listen to a phase 2 system make sure you have option 39 and option 47 in the radio otherwise it will not monitor a phase 2 system. I do know a dealer that I have used in the past and I have recommended him to others who have been helped from him as well. These is a way to program these radios so they will not affiliate to a system that you are trying to monitor and no they will not let you listen to encryption coms unless you have the key and permission from the system administrator as well. As programming you always use the DEC when doing the programming.

 

[IFRIED91]

Ok time to throw my hat into the ring. I have 2 harris xg100P and 1 Harris XG/M7300 that I am using to monitor here in montgomery county , md plus the whole dc metro area. I can do codeplug aka mission plan or help you learn if you would like just shoot me a PM. If you are going to listen to a phase 2 system make sure you have option 39 and option 47 in the radio otherwise it will not monitor a phase 2 system. I do know a dealer that I have used in the past and I have recommended him to others who have been helped from him as well. These is a way to program these radios so they will not affiliate to a system that you are trying to monitor and no they will not let you listen to encryption coms unless you have the key and permission from the system administrator as well. As programming you always use the DEC when doing the programming.

I’m not sure Harris dealers even touch these anymore as theyve been discontinued since 2017

 

[motorcoachdoug]

Yes they do,as I was able to get the option 47 for my harris xg/m7300 about 3 months ago for my radio.

 

[d_strong]

I'm looking at setting up a mission plan for wide/narrow/p25 conventional FPP for local amateur radio use. Any help would be appreciated I’m using a Harris Unity XG-100P. Thanks

 

[IFRIED91]

Yes they do,as I was able to get the option 47 for my harris xg/m7300 about 3 months ago for my radio.

Omg they actually where able to help you? Now who’s that work u give them a bunch of info and they just give u a feature string modification?