Friday - January 13th, 2023
*Thanks Kiniutech! And Damien for all your input. I've learned A LOT.
I forgot all about the NY ANG LC-130H OPs at Thule AB, Greenland AND I found an old collection of freqs I had from 1999 and THERE is the SATCOM freqs (confirmed) (are these the downlink freqs you heard them on?). Also a nice YouTube video of the LC-130Hs at Thule at end. "I had" some Thule AB "contact OPS" freqs (somewhere). They used an "odd ball" name for that ops and it took me forever to figure out the frequency IDs were for Thule AB and NOT for local New York. But I've lost that note now. Also lost any HF freqs for aircraft inbound Thule as well. I'm building all this over again. Those recordings were fantastic. Much appreciated. best, lar
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MAC CENTER (McMurdo ATC) (also referred to as: NZCM FSS)
Callsign: NZCM_FSS ("MAC CENTER")
Primary Frequency (HF): HF 9032 KHz (VHF 128.700 MHz) - (11256 provided as secondary HF contact)
McMurdo Area Frequency (VHF): VHF 118.200 MHz
RTF Designator: "Mac Center"
Telephone Designator: "Mac Center"
McMurdo ATC provides Enroute/Oceanic Air Traffic Control, flight following, Non-Radar Approach Control, VFR Control Tower services and Search and Rescue coordination. These services are provided for aircraft operating south of 60° South latitude in the McMurdo Sector and USAP flights operating over the Antarctic Continent. Other Antarctic ATC agencies may assist Mac Center in providing these services.
Mac Center coordinates with Auckland Radio for flights between Antarctica and New Zealand and Brisbane Radio for flights between Antarctica and Australia. Within the McMurdo Sector, applicable to all aircraft, aircraft coming from New Zealand, Australia etc, will begin on the HF frequency and as they get closer to Antarctica, will be transferred to the VHF frequency 118.2. Mac Center is controlled in the real world by American Military Controllers, controllers from VATNZ should be aware of the different classes of airspace and what they mean.
MAC CENTER communications contact detail:
VATNZ ATC Sector Map:
Which Controller do I call for a clearance? Sometimes there is no local aerodrome controller online, particulary at some New Zealand provincial airports. Frequently there are Centre, or what we term Area Controllers online controlling large areas of airspace. So when this occurs who is the best controller to call for a clearance? The diagram below shows the airspace covered by each Centre Controller. Some things to note are:
1) NZAA automatically extends to cover NZCH-B when NZCH-B is not online
2) NZCH-T automatically extends to cover NZOH when NZOH is not online
3) If one sector is not online an adjacent sector may provide ATC however this is not always the case and is up to the individual controller at the time.
(inserted sector chart):
VATNZ home page:
ANTARCTIC FREQUENCIES:
9032 (primary) = "MAC CENTER" w/"SKIER" LC-130 109th AW, SCHENECTADY, NY ANG
11256 (secondary) = "MAC CENTER" w/"SKIER" LC-130 109th AW, SCHENECTADY, NY ANG
118.200 = "McMurdo Area" Frequency (see notes below)
122.800 = UNICOM NZZO = NZZO is Auckland Oceanic East
126.200 = PHOENIX TOWER (NZFX - Phoenix Airfield, McMurdo Station, Ross Island, Antarctica)
126.200 = ICE TOWER (NZIR)
128.700 = MAC CENTER PRIMARY (NZCM FSS)(Williams Airfield, McMurdo Station, Antarctica)
134.100 = KZWD McMurdo Station = Ice Runway Tower
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(combined from 1999 & 2023):
LC-130H 109th AIRLIFT WING
SCHENECTADY COUNTY APT
(STRATTON ANGB) NY [KSCH]
NEW YORK ANG
"SKIER" = Unit [aircraft static callsign] for local training flights & Command Post Ops [callsign]
"FROZEN" = NY ANG LC-130 Enroute FROM Christchurch, New Zealand TO Antarctica
"NORTH" = NY ANG LC-130 Enroute TO Christchurch, New Zealand FROM Antarctica
OPS at: Schenectady (Stratton ANG Base, Scotia, NY)
OPS at: Christchurch Intl Apt, New Zealand
OPS at: McMurdo Station, Antarctica
OPS at: Thule Air Base, Qaanaaq, Greenland
251.25 Skier Ops UHF at Schenectady, NY
140.45 Skier Ops VHF at Schenectady, NY
291.90 Scotia Drop Zone (NY)
123.45 Comm Nav Shop V-1
357.00 Comm Nav Shop UHF
261.65 SATCOM
261.95 SATCOM
173.5875 Stratton ANGB Flightline Control (Chan 1)
173.4125 Stratton ANGB Fire (Chan 2)
163.4875 Stratton ANGB SP's
173.4375 Stratton ANGB Expeditor Ops (maintenance)
173.5375 Stratton ANGB Aeroport
121.30/321.10 Schenectady Tower
121.90/ Schenectady Ground
118.05/226.800 Albany Airport app/dep
125.00/307.200 Albany Airport app/dep
119.50/263.075 Albany Airport app/dep
121.300 CTAF
119.275 AWOS-3
122.950 UNICOM
356.000 HUNTER NDB NAVAID
219.000 HAWKY NDB/LOM NAVAID
257.850 Boston Center Lo Altitude ALB sector
348.700 Boston Center Hi Altitude CAM sector
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Thule Air Base, Qaanaaq, Greenland
FAA Identifier: BGTL
ARTCC: EDMONTON CENTER
FSS: GANDER RADIO-RCO FLIGHT SERVICE STATION
As of 2020, the Thule Remote Tracking Station (TTS) is a "U.S. Space Force" installation in Greenland, having a Remote Tracking Station (callsign for the Polar Orbiting Geophysical Observatory is: "POGO") of the Satellite Control Network. As of 2010, PAX Airlines: Air Greenland, CARGO (shipping): Ocean Transportation is provided by Schuyler Line Navigation Company, a US Flag Ocean Carrier. Schuyler Line operates under government contract to supply sustainment and building supplies to the Base. Besides Canadian Fighters & Transports, the National Science Foundation maintains a presence there as well utilizing the NY ANG LC-130H aircraft to support them and their "remote outpost" missons.
Really Nice (2021) Video featuring the 109th AW NY ANG LC-130H at Thule AB, Greenland.
See them land these birds "on snow skis":
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FROZN23 (LC-130 NY ANG) (Tail Reg: 92-1095) (Hex ID: ADFDB) (@7:35pm 1/12/23 - 3rd Flight Tonight I've seen)
7:30pm DEPARTED Christchurch, NZ heading Due South (to Antarctica?)
8:08pm RETURNING Christchurch, NZ (aircraft maintenance issue or was this a check ride?) Landed Safe.
(inserted FROZN23 RTB & Christchurch Intl Apt NZ map):
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