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High pitch short beep on TG

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mdsxfire

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I asked this a while ago and thought I had it figured out.
When my FD TG keys up I get a short high beep ( close to a low battery alarm on a smoke detector) it doesn’t happen with every transmission and just started again after I moved the TG down one In the list. I do not have priority setup and all TGs are set to alert mode=tone and alert tone=none.
After checking the pps it is the chirp tone that is playing, even though I don’t have that set to play on any TGs. It seems as if for some reason the pager is getting confused and playing this tone any way. One knob has 48 TGs including this one and none of them do this except for my primary ops TG.
No.1 is the problem TG

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Anyone else have this happen to them at all


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I think from a poor signal every time I have heard that the dispatcher or whoever they were talking to say “please repeat, your unreadable”.
 

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In my programming, I have Alert Mode set to None. Have you tried that?



Yes, all 300+ TGs are set to tone/none. This particular TG which is the only one that has ever done it is set up exactly the same as the others. It’s very strange. It’s like the pager is randomly letting the chirp tone come through only on this TG


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When this beep happens are you using Blue tooth? If you are, turn off blue tooth and see if the beep goes away. I have two blue tooth headsets. One head set announces the beginning and end of each transmission verbally. My other headset a Trax Titanium only beeps at the end of a transmission. Some blue tooth receivers are worst than others. It has been awhile since I have used the Trax Titanium so don't quote me on this. The Trax headset end of transmission beep sounds like the beep in your video.
 

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I don’t see the BT connection icon in the video, so doubt it has anything to do with that.

If it was an Alert Tone/Mode setting issue, wouldn’t it happen at the start of the first transmission in the video? It sounds like it happened after. Or perhaps at the beginning of the next transmission which came very quickly.

Very strange indeed.
 

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I don’t see the BT connection icon in the video, so doubt it has anything to do with that.

If it was an Alert Tone/Mode setting issue, wouldn’t it happen at the start of the first transmission in the video? It sounds like it happened after. Or perhaps at the beginning of the next transmission which came very quickly.

Very strange indeed.



Yes the beep doesn’t happen on every transmission and only happens on one TG, and yes it seems to happen closer to the middle/ end of the transmission.


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Little late to the game on this one.......

Do you use the priority TG feature? I know when you do there's a priority alert/notification tone, though I'm not sure what it sounds like because I've not ever had the need to use it.


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Little late to the game on this one.......

Do you use the priority TG feature? I know when you do there's a priority alert/notification tone, though I'm not sure what it sounds like because I've not ever had the need to use it.


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Absolutely not late to the game, thanks any help is appreciated but no I don’t use the priority feature either. I sent a copy of my programming to rays for a look and he is kinda stumped as well.
Trying to remember back when I first got it, I programmed a separate zone with the only knob being programmed with the TG in question but with subtones for dispatch. So out of all my 300+ TGs this was the only one that appeared twice in the list, once as a normal TG once with two tone for paging. (The set alert was a minitor 5 .wav I downloaded not the chirp tone). The pager would chirp sporadically on this TG. I changed the programming a week or so after receiving and without noticing the chirp stopped. Around the time the chirp came back I had set the dispatch only zone/TG up again for testing. Last night I removed the zone and the TG, will have to wait for my next call and ask my wife how it did and if that stopped it, it seems like the pager sees that TG is also programmed with a two tone and maybe gets confused and let’s a chirp bl red through.
On a side note my wife seemed to notice at a call last night that it seems to be only certain radios that it happens on???? Which makes it even more strange.
I will update thread after next call


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I see you have a setting in D7 enabled that is usually disabled by default... you might want to check that...

Alert Repeatedly

Definition
Determines whether the pager plays the alert tone continuously after the first out of range alert. The total alert duration depends on the Alert Duration feature.

Options
1. Uncheck (Default)
2. Check

If that doesn't help, I'll look deeper.

EDIT: Although I've tried changing that setting to match yours, I haven't yet been able to recreate/generate the issue.
 
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I see you have a setting in D7 enabled that is usually disabled by default... you might want to check that...



Alert Repeatedly



Definition

Determines whether the pager plays the alert tone continuously after the first out of range alert. The total alert duration depends on the Alert Duration feature.



Options

1. Uncheck (Default)

2. Check



If that doesn't help, I'll look deeper.



Solid copy, I will change that and get back to u


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Had the same issue when I first programmed mine. I’m trying to figure out where I had something checked that was causing it. It was not on the TG page. One thing for sure, my dog couldn’t stand it! :)
 

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Update!!!!
After removing the duplicate dispatch channel that also had the two tone programmed into it and removing the dispatch zone we’ve had 4 calls and the wife said it didn’t chirp during any of them. So having just the TG and then the TG with the tones the pager is getting confused being they are the same TG#


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Saw both entries and considered that as a possibility but it doesn't seem like that would matter as long as you weren't using it to monitor.. they are two entirely different 'objects' with the only thing in common being the TGID value...

Odd.. but glad you figured it out.
 

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Saw both entries and considered that as a possibility but it doesn't seem like that would matter as long as you weren't using it to monitor.. they are two entirely different 'objects' with the only thing in common being the TGID value...

Odd.. but glad you figured it out.



Yes exactly as I thought even though it is the same TG they are individual entries one has the two tone for paging and the other one does not, and not only are they not on the same knob they are in different zones. Very very odd, it seems as though only one other person has had this issue so prob not something unication would look into.
Also weird is the tone I had selected for my dispatch TG was a .wav file of a minitor V not the chirp tone. But again as long as it fixed it I’m good with it.


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