Homepatrol-Cannot select service types

[lost_in_maine]

My Hp-1 has been working for the past 2 years...Last night I went into my favorites list to do some changes on what I was hearing..
Doesn't matter what they system is, but any changes I make there, makes me lose all my service-types.
Updating the radio with Sentinel, all gets set back to normal, UNTIL I edit Favorites from the radio, then again, all types are grayed out, and can't enable them
Haven't done a reset yet, but not sure what else to look at, Any Ideas?

 

[lost_in_maine]

A little more Info

I just did a reset, re-seated and re-formatted the SD card
Uploaded favorites back to HP, yet the problem is still there

All my Fav lists consist of Single Frequency P25 Trunk Systems,nothing fancy
As long as I don't mess with favorites using the radio, everything works fine...

I had set the squelch to 0, as I don't have any conventional systems programmed as per the thread with P25 Decode issues, and squelch
Service Types stay enabled now with the squelch set back to 2, but will only show a couple frequencies when counting.

In Sentinel, I checked the profile settings, and service types, and favorites, all set as the same as it's been and was working straight with same config for months
Confused..

 

[UPMan]

Grab the favorites list using Sentinel and export it to a hpe file, then post it here for someone to look at.

 

[lost_in_maine]

Grab the favorites list using Sentinel and export it to a hpe file, then post it here for someone to look at.

I'll have to get on my other PC to export one..Just don't see how a config that worked for months, one day decides to go South

 

[lost_in_maine]

Grab the favorites list using Sentinel and export it to a hpe file, then post it here for someone to look at.

I've atttached one of the P25 Single Frequency Trunk files ..renamed to ,txt as I only use Winrar, and Rar is not a supported format on RR

 

[UPMan]

That system has no channels, only the frequency.

 

[lost_in_maine]

That system has no channels, only the frequency.

I must be missing a step creating them in Sentinel?

I click Edit Favorite list, new favorites list, Entered Favorite list name,
I enter the name, hit OK,
The Favorite List Editor pops up, I click the green plus button, create new system box pops up,
I enter system name, then clicked the system type box, scroll down to P25 One Frequency, then OK,
In the next box, clicked on Sites, enter a name, click enter, in the next box , add frequency, enter 164.1750, What am I missing here? I searched all over RR for this, before posting and have not found any concise answers.

 

[UPMan]

You need to add a Department on the department tab, then some channels to that department. Channels are identified by the Talk Group ID.

 

[lost_in_maine]

You need to add a Department on the department tab, then some channels to that department. Channels are identified by the Talk Group ID.

But these are single channel systems, no talkgroups...I still need to add Talkgroups?
confused..if I can find something online with steps, and the proper way to add them would be great!

 

[UPMan]

No, they are single frequency systems. The purpose of such systems is to allow multiple sets of users (i.e. Talk Groups) to share the single frequency without hearing the other sets of users.

If these are just single-frequency conventional P25 channels, then they should just be added as channels to a department in a conventional system.

 

[lost_in_maine]

No, they are single frequency systems. The purpose of such systems is to allow multiple sets of users (i.e. Talk Groups) to share the single frequency without hearing the other sets of users.

If these are just single-frequency conventional P25 channels, then they should just be added as channels to a department in a conventional system.

But if I add them as a conventional system, will I still be able to see UID's?..Thought that was the part of the purpose of adding them as a single channel trunk

 

[UPMan]

If you want them treated as trunk, then you have to program as P25 One-Frequency Trunk and add at least one channel. It can be a bogus channel if you don't know the TGIDs used on the system, then scan it in ID Search mode to capture the actual TGIDs being used.

 

[lost_in_maine]

If you want them treated as trunk, then you have to program as P25 One-Frequency Trunk and add at least one channel. It can be a bogus channel if you don't know the TGIDs used on the system, then scan it in ID Search mode to capture the actual TGIDs being used.

I thought adding the frequency to the single p25 trunk is the same as adding a channel? No???

 

[UPMan]

No. For a trunked system, a frequency is just a frequency (it does not identify the agency talking, it is just a resource used by multiple agencies). A channel is defined by the Talk Group ID (the Talk Group ID actually identifies the specific agency talking).

 

[lost_in_maine]

So all this being said, is there anyplace where I can read the steps on how to set it up properly online, or somebody send me the proper steps via Email? Searched here to no avail

 

[UPMan]

Start on Page 19 of the manual.

http://info.uniden.com/twiki/pub/HomePatrol/WebHome/HomePatrol_OM_V2_Extreme.pdf

EDIT:
Sorry, that is for programming on the unit with a Extreme Upgrade.

You program it just like you would any other trunked radio system using Sentinel. All you are missing is adding a Department, then a channel. Based on what you've done so far it should be pretty self-explanatory.

 

[lost_in_maine]

Start on Page 19 of the manual.

http://info.uniden.com/twiki/pub/HomePatrol/WebHome/HomePatrol_OM_V2_Extreme.pdf

EDIT:
Sorry, that is for programming on the unit with a Extreme Upgrade.

You program it just like you would any other trunked radio system using Sentinel. All you are missing is adding a Department, then a channel. Based on what you've done so far it should be pretty self-explanatory.

I do have Extreme, but was hoping for something to be able to do it with Sentinel, not with the radio...

 

[UPMan]

You've basically done it. Just add a department and put any channel into that department.

 

[lost_in_maine]

You've basically done it. Just add a department and put any channel into that department.

So add a channel to what I already have? so am I adding the frequency twice?..In my old brain channel to me, means frequency..
Wish Sentinel was't lacking so much in documentation

 

[hiegtx]

So add a channel to what I already have? so am I adding the frequency twice?..In my old brain channel to me, means frequency..
Wish Sentinel was't lacking so much in documentation

You're not adding the actual frequency twice. But you need a talkgroup (i.e. channel, as well as the 'Department' added), plus s switching that one-channel trunk system from the "ID-Scan" default to "ID-Search". The switch to ID Search mode can easily be done in Sentinel. See this. (Actually, I just downloaded & viewed your file, and you already have it set to ID Search.)

See the attached screen shots.

The top one is the way your system currently is set up.

In the second one, I have simply added a "Department" which is what UPMan was suggesting.

The third pic shows the final system with the added department, and a "blank" talkgroup added.

The "Acadia.hpe.txt" attachment is the modified file. Just remove the 'txt' extension before importing.