How can I find the frequencies & LCN for a LTR not current

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I am trying to scan a LTR trunking system in my local area (Hidalgo county TX). The communicatins provider is Mobile Relays, Inc. They use both regular LTR and Pasport. I have heard that the info from the Database does not have the current info for Mobile Relays, last updated 2005-01-03. How can I find the right frequencies and LCN for there regular LTR system (not passport) Is this Info provided by the FCC? I have been surching the Internet for days and can't seem to get anywhere.

I would so much appreciate any help you could provide and I thank you in advance!
 

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The RS Pro-97 has the ability to track an LTR frequency and display its LCN.
 

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That's sort of a tricky question.

Yes, for the most part the information is provided by the FCC. But, there is no guarantee that all frequencies listed for a particular licensee are in use for a particular system at any given time. Furthermore, some systems have frequencies licensed under multiple licenses. To add insult to injury, some places have conventional frequencies licensed to them that they use in a trunked system even though they were licensed as conventional frequencies.

The FCC DB lists a lot of callsigns associated with Mobile Relays Partners, LTD in the trunked ranges.

Here is what I did:
1. Go to http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchAdvanced.jsp
- under the Service Group choose Match Only the Following Radio Services
- then select everything beginning with Y such as YP
- under Name put in Mobile Relays
- State: Texas
- Results Display: 100
- click Search

This will bring up many licenses for Mobile Relays - some systems will be in 400 mhz, some in 800 mhz, some elsewhere. They could be either Motorola, EDACS, etc.

Once you get a list of the callsigns, click on one of them - Then choose Locations (dont go by the address on the Main section). The Locations will tell you where those frequencies are _supposed_ to be in use at. And look for the frequencies that list FB4 FB6 or FB8. FB is fixed base. FB2 is a repeater. FB4/6/8 are all for various types of trunked systems.

Here are ones I see with specific locations in Hidalgo Co.

WPJM884
- looks like may be part of site 001
- location says 5 KM N MCCALLEN TX
WPQE434
- looks like may be part of site 001
- location says 5 KM N MCCALLEN TX
WPRI273
- looks like may be part of site 001
- location says 5 KM N MCCALLEN TX

WPRU483
- looks like may be part of site 009
- location says 5 KM N MCCALLEN TX

WPUQ564
- looks like may be part of site 012
- location says 3.6 MI SW EDINBURG
WPXB664
- looks like may be part of site 012
- location says 3.6 MI SW EDINBURG

WQBC755
- location says 3.6 MI SW EDINBURG

I would say the last one above is the best bet for the non-passport system. And maybe also the second to last one.

Again, please keep in mind that (a) just because a frequency is listed there does not mean it is actually in use right now, (b) some sites/systems may have frequencies in use from multiple licenses above, (c) some frequencies may be EDACS, some may be LTR, some may be Type I/II Moto, etc., etc.

As you already know, you won't be able to _track_ LTR Multinet or LTR Passport.

Also - check these Wiki links for how you would attempt to determine LTRs for system with no/some confirmed LCNs. It's a very tedious process at times if you don't know what LCNs are associated with a particular frequency in a system, especially if you don't have a Radio Shack scanner that can produce that information for you.

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/LTR
http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Mapping_an_LTR_System

But there's a good start, I think.

Mike
 
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Thank you so much Mike

I was finaly able to trunktrack the LTR from Mobile Relays. I ended up returning my Pro scanner for a Pro 97 that shows the LCN and ID so I could properly enter the frequences in the right chanels.
I am so grateful for all the time you spent to post a reply that was so helpful. I am now working on my next LTR system here in Hildalgo County TX.
 

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steverefsel said:
I was finaly able to trunktrack the LTR from Mobile Relays. I ended up returning my Pro scanner for a Pro 97 that shows the LCN and ID so I could properly enter the frequences in the right chanels.
I am so grateful for all the time you spent to post a reply that was so helpful. I am now working on my next LTR system here in Hildalgo County TX.

Steve,

It was my pleasure. I'm glad you've found a way to track down those elusive LCNs. I think since you have a lot of LTRs in your area, it was a wise choice to get a scanner that can discover/detect those LCNs. It sure is a lot less of a hassle if you have one of those. Maybe some day I"ll pick me up one like that.

Also - here are the links I use when researching FCC data - I think there are other ones out there that I don't remember and didn't write down, but these are very helpful to me.

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/reports7/
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/genmen/index.hts
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchAdvanced.jsp (which you already have)

Mike
 
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