Hypothetical "G6 Pager"

[jetpm]

Hey all,
I love my APX 8000 and Unication G3 combo but sadly I want more from Unication.... Mostly an all-band (VHF, UHF, 800/700, DMR) Pager. Anyone know the difficulties of actually making an all band pager? How interested would you be in an all band pager and how much would you be willing to spend? I do love the unique size of the pager but I wouldn't mind seeing it being bigger in order to accommodate all the bands. Maybe perhaps an all band antenna too but I'm already pushing what I am asking for in a pager.

 

[N6ML]

Are you really looking for a pager? Or actually a scanner? I'd imagine that the primary market for pagers would be public service agencies, where each agency would typically use either a single band, or maybe a combination of legacy paging on VHF or UHF plus voice traffic on a new 7/800MHz P25 system. I can't really see a big market for "all-band" pagers...

 

[cmjonesinc]

Are you really looking for a pager? Or actually a scanner? I'd imagine that the primary market for pagers would be public service agencies, where each agency would typically use either a single band, or maybe a combination of legacy paging on VHF or UHF plus voice traffic on a new 7/800MHz P25 system. I can't really see a big market for "all-band" pagers...

Yeah I'm with you on that. Too many channels/tgs on an actual emergency responders pager and you start missing traffic intended for you. While an all band and mode pager would be great for scanner hobbyist, I can't see it for emergency responders which is what Unication pagers are built for. My county has several agencies that respond to neighboring counties very regularly. They all carry 2 pagers. Not because one is a different band or mode, but because if you start scanning too many channels you're going to miss traffic intended for you.

 

[KC4YIN]

Here you go.

Scanner

www.uni.com.tw

 

[Hit_Factor]

Too much overhead switching between systems. At least in the current state of tech.

Perhaps if the unit had a separate receiver for each band and protocol, wait a second that wouldn't fit well in the current form factor. Nevermind.

 

[kc5igh]

Here you go.

Scanner

www.uni.com.tw

I got excited when that page was posted, but that was a very long time ago, and I'm not willing to bet it will happen in our lifetime.

Oh, well . . .

-Johnnie (KC5IGH)

 

[CFP387]

I got excited when that page was posted, but that was a very long time ago, and I'm not willing to bet it will happen in our lifetime.

Even if the unit did make it to the market, it most likely would not be intended for public safety use. This proposed "scanner" and the G-Series pager look so much alike that it's probably just an idea to generate interest as there may not even be one of these in existence.

Personally, I would want the scanner and the pager to look different so that they are not to be confused among public safety personnel.

 

[kc5igh]

Even if the unit did make it to the market, it most likely would not be intended for public safety use. This proposed "scanner" and the G-Series pager look so much alike that it's probably just an idea to generate interest as there may not even be one of these in existence.

Personally, I would want the scanner and the pager to look different so that they are not to be confused among public safety personnel.

I'm guessing that Unication might be as interested in making more money as they are in staying in their "public safety" groove.

They sold a lot of G-series pagers to people like me who were experiencing simulcast issues before the Uniden SDS-series scanners were released. Once the SDS-100's and SDS-200's became available, their corner on that market went away. In fact, I think I may have purchased the very last G5 that ScannerMaster had in stock.

I therefore think it's very possible that Unication is serious about developing a scanner, but it's likely to take quite a while and probably won't have a lot of the features that the Uniden scanners possess. The Uniden SDS-series scanners have their problems (e.g. power consumption, the J401 cold solder joint assembly issue, etc), so a Unication scanner might be a very attractive option to some of us if and when they ever become available.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see . . .

-Johnnie (KC5IGH)

 

[Dafe1er]

What if Unication was smart, and reached out to Uniden to possibly work with them on making a newer, top-end, pager/ scanner? Or maybe they reached out to Uniden and are trying or tried to obtain rights to make a scanner based on their design internally?

IDK, I'm just thinking outside the box here. To me, it would be a grand idea for them to do since Uniden is really not here for us on the scanner movement since Paul passed away, and they (Unication) have the track record of having the best non-scanner, scanner out on the market for simulcast issues, quality of the unit, and fair price.

 

[radio3353]

What if Unication was smart, and reached out to Uniden to possibly work with them on making a newer, top-end, pager/ scanner? Or maybe they reached out to Uniden and are trying or tried to obtain rights to make a scanner based on their design internally?

IDK, I'm just thinking outside the box here. To me, it would be a grand idea for them to do since Uniden is really not here for us on the scanner movement since Paul passed away, and they (Unication) have the track record of having the best non-scanner, scanner out on the market for simulcast issues, quality of the unit, and fair price.

Let's hope not. I would hate to see Uniden's SDS quality problems infiltrate Unication. Not smart or grand at all IMO. Unication is a professional radio company, not consumer. Let's keep it that way.

 

[trido]

You are right I delete my stupid response.
personally, the Unication software is rather straight forward and intuitive.

Let's hope not. I would hate to see Uniden's SDS quality problems infiltrate Unication. Not smart or grand at all IMO. Unication is a professional radio company, not consumer. Let's keep it that way.

 

[900mhz]

Well to me Unication could use software HELP from UNIDEN....

personally, the Unication software is rather straight forward and intuitive.

 

[Citywide173]

What if Unication was smart, and reached out to Uniden to possibly work with them on making a newer, top-end, pager/ scanner? Or maybe they reached out to Uniden and are trying or tried to obtain rights to make a scanner based on their design internally?

IDK, I'm just thinking outside the box here. To me, it would be a grand idea for them to do since Uniden is really not here for us on the scanner movement since Paul passed away, and they (Unication) have the track record of having the best non-scanner, scanner out on the market for simulcast issues, quality of the unit, and fair price.

I floated this idea in another thread, Whistler should have reached out to Unication when they attempted the TRX-100/200. Probably would have made for a great radio.

 

[mitbr]

I don't think you can compare Uniden to Unication they are two very different animals.One is professional in quality and focus the other is jack of all trades toy I will let you decide which you think is which.
Tim

 

[maus92]

All I want in a "G6" pager would be a better speaker / more audio power - like some APX models. TBH, the large jurisdictions in my metro area are beginning to ditch FTO paging altogether and focusing on Smartphone alerting. The legacy tone outs on large incidents is highly inefficient / cumbersome / time-consuming.

 

[belvdr]

I don't think you can compare Uniden to Unication they are two very different animals.One is professional in quality and focus the other is jack of all trades toy I will let you decide which you think is which.
Tim

And one is limited in scope while the other has a lot more possibilities.

Seriously, though, I have to use a Uniden, because I want to listen on more frequencies than the Unication can provide. On the Unication scanner topic, it will be interesting to see what, if anything, Unication delivers. An all band trunking scanner is not an easy feat.

 

[mitbr]

And one is limited in scope while the other has a lot more possibilities.

Seriously, though, I have to use a Uniden, because I want to listen on more frequencies than the Unication can provide. On the Unication scanner topic, it will be interesting to see what, if anything, Unication delivers. An all band trunking scanner is not an easy feat.

People need to have a different way of thinking.For those who have the money, they should have a focused radio for each thing they want to monitor, of course then there is the problem of carrying multiple radios around if portable. I still believe in having the correct tool for the task. If Unication should develop a G6... I think keeping the same quality would be cost prohibitive which means we are back to the same problem.
Tim

 

[belvdr]

People need to have a different way of thinking.For those who have the money, they should have a focused radio for each thing they want to monitor, of course then there is the problem of carrying multiple radios around if portable. I still believe in having the correct tool for the task. If Unication should develop a G6... I think keeping the same quality would be cost prohibitive which means we are back to the same problem.
Tim

Agree on all accounts. Going portable, I don't want to have a go-pack with all sorts of radios. For now, I throw the 100 in the cup holder and it does a sufficient job for my needs. I cannot see a G4/G5 doing better, but I don't know what I don't know.

I would like to go with a G4/G5, mainly due to form factor and its dedication to a single band. However, they haven't been exactly great in their Bluetooth capability nor with their beta testers. from what I read here. My concern with a Unication scanner is they may not dedicate the resources necessary to keep it current.

 

[mitbr]

Agree on all accounts. Going portable, I don't want to have a go-pack with all sorts of radios. For now, I throw the 100 in the cup holder and it does a sufficient job for my needs. I cannot see a G4/G5 doing better, but I don't know what I don't know.

I would like to go with a G4/G5, mainly due to form factor and its dedication to a single band. However, they haven't been exactly great in their Bluetooth capability nor with their beta testers. from what I read here. My concern with a Unication scanner is they may not dedicate the resources necessary to keep it current.

If you like the SDS enjoy, it is a great radio, if you have the money try a Unication you won't be disappointed. Just make sure it works on the system you listen to most.
Tim

 

[belvdr]

If you like the SDS enjoy, it is a great radio, if you have the money try a Unication you won't be disappointed. Just make sure it works on the system you listen to most.
Tim

Yeah, I'd like to try it. Quick question that I cannot find an answer to: Is it possible to open another TG when another is opened? Example: I'd like for the dispatch TG to be unsquelched if the paging TG is opened, sort of like the old Minitors when they would remain unsquelched after they received a page.