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Hytera products?
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PDC680, but it only features Android 10.
Muxlow
Super Secret
I use a PDC760
Comes in either VHF or UHF
Analog+DMR
Encryption options
POC radio
Android cell phone
1 package
Comes in either VHF or UHF
Analog+DMR
Encryption options
POC radio
Android cell phone
1 package
Long-promised review of the PDC680 by YL3IM — better late than never 
The radio exists in different versions:
* PDC — DMR/FM
* PTC — TETRA
Advantages
➕ A hybrid of a radio and a full-fledged Android smartphone in a classic form factor with a removable battery, which also serves as the back cover.
➕ Google services can be disabled through standard settings.
➕ Can be rooted if necessary.
➕ Can make calls like a regular mobile phone.
➕ RoIP — essentially digital trunking, Tier 3, using the Internet as transport instead of radio waves. It also works over RF. Supported by BrandMeister, meaning it can be used as a standalone device outside coverage areas without the need to carry a “local hotspot.”
➕ The radio module can be loaded even without Android and used with just the top display.
➕ You can freely troll Apple fans who think they’re superior — “Well, you don’t have this, do you?”
➕ MDMLite supports full Excel import/export without requiring Microsoft Office. Traditional radios demand it, and many fields are missing from the file.
Disadvantages
➖ Runs Android 10, which is outdated.
➖ Google considers the device uncertified — only BASIC_INTEGRITY passes. Can be fixed by rooting. Installing serious apps is not recommended due to potential security issues.
➖ The last firmware update was in July 2024.
➖ When using the network (e.g., in RoIP mode), the battery heats noticeably — up to 40°C.
➖ If the password/key is forgotten, Android recovery mode won’t boot, and fastboot won’t allow a reset either.
➖ Very limited audio settings compared to regular Hytera radios.
➖ Talk Permit tone leaks into the audio path and is heard by the other party. If you disable sounds, you also lose incoming call tones and alerts (e.g., repeater unavailable). The Channel Free Tone depends on the same setting and can’t be disabled separately.
➖ If an external address book exists in Android (in my case, a self-hosted radicale instance via DavX), when reading the radio via MDMLite, its contents are transferred into the radio memory and then deleted from the server during sync — backups are a good idea.
➖ Compared to its predecessor, PDC760, the screen is narrower — making display use less convenient.
➖ Draws attention. You can’t just leave it discreetly on a desk, though sometimes that’s needed.
➖ The tuner is not publicly available.
➖ In RoIP mode, a short press of the PTT is required to activate the group for transmission. After that, you can use PTT normally while talking, listening, then talking again. To return to group scan mode, you must press the red (power) button. Not very convenient. To activate transmission, a timeout after the last reception must pass — you can’t instantly transmit.
➖ If you choose a custom contact for transmission, it's active only until the display turns off or locks. After that, the call defaults back to the preset contact.
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Despite the mentioned drawbacks, I don’t regret buying this toy. I only regret not getting it earlier — back in the PDC760 days.
The review may be updated over time if I remember anything else.
The radio exists in different versions:
* PDC — DMR/FM
* PTC — TETRA
Advantages
➕ A hybrid of a radio and a full-fledged Android smartphone in a classic form factor with a removable battery, which also serves as the back cover.
➕ Google services can be disabled through standard settings.
➕ Can be rooted if necessary.
➕ Can make calls like a regular mobile phone.
➕ RoIP — essentially digital trunking, Tier 3, using the Internet as transport instead of radio waves. It also works over RF. Supported by BrandMeister, meaning it can be used as a standalone device outside coverage areas without the need to carry a “local hotspot.”
➕ The radio module can be loaded even without Android and used with just the top display.
➕ You can freely troll Apple fans who think they’re superior — “Well, you don’t have this, do you?”
➕ MDMLite supports full Excel import/export without requiring Microsoft Office. Traditional radios demand it, and many fields are missing from the file.
Disadvantages
➖ Runs Android 10, which is outdated.
➖ Google considers the device uncertified — only BASIC_INTEGRITY passes. Can be fixed by rooting. Installing serious apps is not recommended due to potential security issues.
➖ The last firmware update was in July 2024.
➖ When using the network (e.g., in RoIP mode), the battery heats noticeably — up to 40°C.
➖ If the password/key is forgotten, Android recovery mode won’t boot, and fastboot won’t allow a reset either.
➖ Very limited audio settings compared to regular Hytera radios.
➖ Talk Permit tone leaks into the audio path and is heard by the other party. If you disable sounds, you also lose incoming call tones and alerts (e.g., repeater unavailable). The Channel Free Tone depends on the same setting and can’t be disabled separately.
➖ If an external address book exists in Android (in my case, a self-hosted radicale instance via DavX), when reading the radio via MDMLite, its contents are transferred into the radio memory and then deleted from the server during sync — backups are a good idea.
➖ Compared to its predecessor, PDC760, the screen is narrower — making display use less convenient.
➖ Draws attention. You can’t just leave it discreetly on a desk, though sometimes that’s needed.
➖ The tuner is not publicly available.
➖ In RoIP mode, a short press of the PTT is required to activate the group for transmission. After that, you can use PTT normally while talking, listening, then talking again. To return to group scan mode, you must press the red (power) button. Not very convenient. To activate transmission, a timeout after the last reception must pass — you can’t instantly transmit.
➖ If you choose a custom contact for transmission, it's active only until the display turns off or locks. After that, the call defaults back to the preset contact.
---
Despite the mentioned drawbacks, I don’t regret buying this toy. I only regret not getting it earlier — back in the PDC760 days.
The review may be updated over time if I remember anything else.
If you have a traditional DMR setup, I assume you can configure this radio to work off of your repeater. But how about to mobile network setup? Can you make it talk to your DMR network radios while this thing it outside of DMR coverage and only has access to mobile network? Do you need some sort of gateway setup? What is that gateway and how do you get it?
Muxlow
Super Secret
If you have a conventional DMR network say at your work and you program the radio to operate on that.
And you go on a road trip out of range of your DMR network then you can still use the POC side of the radio to communicate back
But for that you need to have a DMR mobile radio connected to a POC mobile radio
The DMR mobile would sit within range of your DMR network and anything it hears would be retransmitted over the POC mobile radio that is connected to the internet via wifi and sends the retransmitted audio over the internet to your POC radio. You talk on the POC side and it will come back over the internet and back over the DMR side of things
Downside to that is you sorta have to waste a DMR and POC mobile radio thats dedicated for that
POC radios need SIM cards in them and thats a monthly cost with a cell phone provider
Need to find a local hytera dealer to set you up with a POC account also
Iv go this setup currently for a couple customers that use the DMR side in their facility and truck drivers need the longer range so they all use POC portable radios to talk back to the facility
As long as you have cell coverage they work just fine and havnt had any issues yet
And you go on a road trip out of range of your DMR network then you can still use the POC side of the radio to communicate back
But for that you need to have a DMR mobile radio connected to a POC mobile radio
The DMR mobile would sit within range of your DMR network and anything it hears would be retransmitted over the POC mobile radio that is connected to the internet via wifi and sends the retransmitted audio over the internet to your POC radio. You talk on the POC side and it will come back over the internet and back over the DMR side of things
Downside to that is you sorta have to waste a DMR and POC mobile radio thats dedicated for that
POC radios need SIM cards in them and thats a monthly cost with a cell phone provider
Need to find a local hytera dealer to set you up with a POC account also
Iv go this setup currently for a couple customers that use the DMR side in their facility and truck drivers need the longer range so they all use POC portable radios to talk back to the facility
As long as you have cell coverage they work just fine and havnt had any issues yet
This is not too bad. I have an MD782 I can dedicate for this. So I get a POC radio and connect it to the MD782 with what? A special cable? And then get a few POC radios for my remote workers who are out of range and somehow I can program them to have the same channels or groups as my current DMR radios? And they would reach my DMR network via this one POC radio connected to the MD782?
Muxlow
Super Secret
I think you might have to use a HM782 with the correct interface cable. Dont think they make one for a MD/PD to the MNC POC Mobile
Your DMR radio would sit on a single channel on a single talkgroup. So this would be your out of the facility talkgroup or your primary one whatever talkgroup you want the workers who are out of range to be on
Mobile DMR radio sits on that channel+group
POC radios require a subscription and need to be programmed and setup by a dealer. Its not a do it yourself deal with the POC side of things
Dealer sets you up with a single POC channel in the POC mobile and POC portables
Connect the DMR radio to the POC mobile with the interface cable
POC radio is sitting on its only channel and when you talk over the poc radios the poc mobile will hear it and then key up the DMR radio and other way around.
Its easy to setup (well for me since iv done it a few times) only hard part for you would be finding a dealer to set you up an account. If you buy a POC radio off the internet used its locked to whatever dealer originally sold that radio and Hytera cant change it. So if i sold you 10 POC radios they can only be added to our network. Say your sick of me and want to go to another dealer and get a better deal, your out of luck because them radios are locked to our dealer account and cant be transferred
Another downside of the POC is any of the customers i have on POC cant talk to another dealers POC radios. They cant be added to 2 different dealer accounts.
We have a MNC560 POC mobile connected to wifi that is tied into a HM782 at the office. HM782 is for our IP Site connect system but it only has a single talkgroup for the wide area we call it. Anytime someone changes their radios over to the widearea group it will key up the HM782 and the MNC560 and goes over the internet to the POC radios. If they are not on the widearea group when we talk back over POC then of course they wont hear anything
I can get you a couple photos and cable part numbers but quite sure you kinda have to "waste" a HM782 and MNC560 to make the link work
Your DMR radio would sit on a single channel on a single talkgroup. So this would be your out of the facility talkgroup or your primary one whatever talkgroup you want the workers who are out of range to be on
Mobile DMR radio sits on that channel+group
POC radios require a subscription and need to be programmed and setup by a dealer. Its not a do it yourself deal with the POC side of things
Dealer sets you up with a single POC channel in the POC mobile and POC portables
Connect the DMR radio to the POC mobile with the interface cable
POC radio is sitting on its only channel and when you talk over the poc radios the poc mobile will hear it and then key up the DMR radio and other way around.
Its easy to setup (well for me since iv done it a few times) only hard part for you would be finding a dealer to set you up an account. If you buy a POC radio off the internet used its locked to whatever dealer originally sold that radio and Hytera cant change it. So if i sold you 10 POC radios they can only be added to our network. Say your sick of me and want to go to another dealer and get a better deal, your out of luck because them radios are locked to our dealer account and cant be transferred
Another downside of the POC is any of the customers i have on POC cant talk to another dealers POC radios. They cant be added to 2 different dealer accounts.
We have a MNC560 POC mobile connected to wifi that is tied into a HM782 at the office. HM782 is for our IP Site connect system but it only has a single talkgroup for the wide area we call it. Anytime someone changes their radios over to the widearea group it will key up the HM782 and the MNC560 and goes over the internet to the POC radios. If they are not on the widearea group when we talk back over POC then of course they wont hear anything
I can get you a couple photos and cable part numbers but quite sure you kinda have to "waste" a HM782 and MNC560 to make the link work
