Kentucky State Police

[anelson5004]

I'm trying to receive Post 9 Pikeville and Pikeville Sheriff's Office, and I'm located in Cedar Bluff VA connected by an outdoor antenna on my Whistler TRX2. I noticed Several frequencies for Post 9, but I'm not sure which ones are the primary frequencies in order to receive them as clear as possible? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
anelson5004

 

[mastr]

Move to the Post 9 district maybe?

 

[anelson5004]

Move to the Post 9 district maybe?

I'm only 1.5 hours from it. I would think I could receive it

 

[mastr]

My opinion differs, but I have been wrong before.

 

[VASCAR2]

With the mountainous terrain there is a very good chance you don’t have a line of sight between Pikeville Ky and your locations. Using google maps it appears to be 50+ mikes straight line between Pikeville and Cedar Bluff, Va. There is a website where you can enter your location and the location of the State Police tower to see if your scanner has a chance of hearing that transmitter. You enter the height of your antenna and you cam get the height of the state Police tower off the RR darabase.


Here is a link to the app. You might be able to listen to KSP Pikeville on Broadcastify or OpenMHz. The current KSP UHF system uses the A B channels for each District. In my area Dispatch is on channel B.

RF Line of Sight - SCADACore

RF Line-of-Sight provides radio path information for mapping long distance SCADA radio communications by using antenna height and topography.

www.scadacore.com

 

[VASCAR2]

Checking the RR database there are five sites that appear to carry KSP District 9 Pikeville. You could use the app linked above to see if you have line of sight from your location to the towers used by KSP D-9. If you look at the RR Database page linked below you can get the antenna height in meters for each tower. You might need a Yagi directional antenna to receive at that distance on UHF if you have line of sight. The topography has a huge effect on land mobile radio transmissions and propogation.

FCC Callsign KWZ988 (KENTUCKY, COMMONWEALTH OF)

FCC Callsign KWZ988 (KENTUCKY, COMMONWEALTH OF)

www.radioreference.com

 

[VASCAR2]

I got the gps coordinates for the KSP tower at Dorton and entered that location in the RF Site app. I took a location in in Cedar Bluff, Va near US 460 Business and Route 631 just to use as an example. Here is a screen shot of RF Site app for those two locations. In this particular situation there is not clear line of site. Using your location antenna height and KSP towers you might get lucky and be able to hear KSP D-9.

 

[buddrousa]

RF is a lot like a flashlight if you can not see the flashlight then the flashlight can see you.
Now if you want to spend a Million dollars on a 300 Foot tower put lights on it for FAA Rules then you might have a 50/50 chance of receiving your target radio system.

 

[iceman977th]

Your best bets are going to be Dorton and Phelps, they are both high profile sites and closest to the Cedar Bluff area.

That being said..

1. Terrain is definitely going to affect you because of your distance.. it's about 44 miles between the Dorton tower and Cedar Bluff, and 40 from Phelps to Cedar Bluff, and the ridges go upwards of 2500+ foot between the two (Dorton is about 2800') and

2. I think KSP has disabled either some repeaters or simulcasting to facilitate SERVS upgrades in this end of the state. I only get traffic for Post 14 on 2 sites from my hilltop ingest.. have not figured out what is going on yet, and the only person that would be "in the know" is a bit of a dick. I do know at least one of the Post 14 channels shares a frequency with Post 9.

 

[mastr]

...and the only person that would be "in the know" is a bit of a dick...

 

[anelson5004]

Your best bets are going to be Dorton and Phelps, they are both high profile sites and closest to the Cedar Bluff area.

That being said..

1. Terrain is definitely going to affect you because of your distance.. it's about 44 miles between the Dorton tower and Cedar Bluff, and 40 from Phelps to Cedar Bluff, and the ridges go upwards of 2500+ foot between the two (Dorton is about 2800') and

2. I think KSP has disabled either some repeaters or simulcasting to facilitate SERVS upgrades in this end of the state. I only get traffic for Post 14 on 2 sites from my hilltop ingest.. have not figured out what is going on yet, and the only person that would be "in the know" is a bit of a dick. I do know at least one of the Post 14 channels shares a frequency with Post 9.

Is there any chance of receiving Post 14 from my location? I am connected by 2 outdoor antennas combined together.

 

[buddrousa]

No did you read my post you are about 300 foot low for line of site.
Read Post 8

 

[ofd8001]

My "take" on this is that KSP generally has a transmitter site in most counties in a Post area. They are multicast so that post-wide coverage is accomplished. So they are not designed for distance. One is lucky to hear a transmitter from a county away. (For example, I live the next county over from the LaGrange site and reception is hit and miss.)

I'm scratching my head on why KSP would be disabling repeaters in the eastern part of the state when it seems they are focusing more on western Kentucky. If post 14 is not being received from some sites, I'd be more inclined to think a site or two is down.

 

[iceman977th]

My "take" on this is that KSP generally has a transmitter site in most counties in a Post area. They are multicast so that post-wide coverage is accomplished. So they are not designed for distance. One is lucky to hear a transmitter from a county away. (For example, I live the next county over from the LaGrange site and reception is hit and miss.)

I'm scratching my head on why KSP would be disabling repeaters in the eastern part of the state when it seems they are focusing more on western Kentucky. If post 14 is not being received from some sites, I'd be more inclined to think a site or two is down.

That's what my assumption would be.. but I can only assume it's for upgrades. My ingest is up on a hill at our tower site, so it should have no problem hearing all of the transmitters unless their power is turned way down.

(Also annoyed because there's no NAC input on SDRTrunk so I hear anything on that frequency.. WVSIRN has a couple voice paths sharing some frequencies as well as traffic from Post 8 and 9 sites)

 

[buddrousa]

Not what you want to hear but the SDS100 SDS150 and SDS200 line of scanners have the NAC setup on their line of scanners.

 

[iceman977th]

Not what you want to hear but the SDS100 SDS150 and SDS200 line of scanners have the NAC setup on their line of scanners.

No, it's not, because this ingest is receiving about 80 conventional channels and three separate trunked radio systems and capturing all that traffic individually. Don't want to mess with Trunk Recorder either because it will be a nightmare to program.

 

[buddrousa]

I have TACN SYSTEMS and the new KY SERVS SYSTEMS both in range of me not only those 2 I am in range of the AWINS and MOSWIN SYSTEMS so I use my SDS Scanners for these 4 Systems for this reason.
My 996P2 in search will see either system and mix them running ID Search with all frequencies loaded as a few sites share frequencies from different sites.
Using my SDS Scanners with the NAC settings in use the Systems do not mix.
I understand using a PC Setup because it is cheap but they have limits and not always the best options.